Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses -> abandon work? / IA_NA applicability
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sun, 05 April 2015 14:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses -> abandon work? / IA_NA applicability
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On 04/02/2015 01:28 AM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com > <mailto:volz@cisco.com>> wrote: > > So, we're back to the question as to whether > draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses document is needed (and if > it is, whether it is Informational). If you really like the > algorithm and want to suggest to server implementers here is one you > can use, that's fine but it should be Informational then. I don't > see this as required to implement. > > +1. draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses does not really provide much > value on top of assigning addresses randomly. Address assignment via > IA_NA is fundamentally stateful, so I don't see a lot of gain in making > it "deterministic unpredictable" as opposed to "random unpredictable". You get stability of the address, even in scenarios in which you have multiple DHCPv6 servers, without the need of an additional protocol for synchronizing the address leases database. An approach such as that specified by this document is mentioned in RFC7031 itself. e.g.: " Also, the typical large address space (close to 2^64 addresses on /64 prefixes expected to be available on most networks) may make managing address assignment significantly different from DHCPv4 failover. In DHCPv4, it was not possible to use a hash or calculated technique to divide the significantly more limited address space, and therefore, much of the protocol that deals with pool balancing and rebalancing might not be necessary and can be done mathematically." If you think the extra value is worth its implementation, you implement it. If you don't, you don't. -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
- [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stable-pr… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Christian Huitema
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] Next step(s) for draft-ietf-dhc-stabl… Fernando Gont