[dhcwg] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dhc-access-network-identifier-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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-- 4.3.2

The name of an 802.11 access point can imply the users location with a
fair bit of precision, making it effectively count as location data. The
draft needs  more discussion of the privacy implications of that. 

-- 6: 
This section seems underspecified. There seems to be a missing discussion
about interdependencies among options. For example, For example, network
name is meaningless without the technology type. What is the minimum
needed to be coherent?


I support  Stephen's and Alissa's discusses, and look forward to their

-- 4.3.1:
This mentions how to interpret the network name for 802.11, 3GPP, and
3GPP2 networks. Is the use of this sub-option limited to those technology
types? How should it be interpreted for other types?

-4.3.2, Access-Point Name
The paragraph refers to the MAC address of a device. Which device is it
talking about? (e.g. end-device, base station, DHCP relay)

-- 4.4.1:
[SMI] probably needs to be a normative reference.

-- 7, first sentence:
This seems to be making a MUST level requirement for servers that do not
implement this draft. Is this a new MUST, or is already specified
elsewhere? (If the latter, then citation?)


-- 1, paragraph 2, First sentence: 
Missing article for DHCP relay agent

-- 2, 2nd paragraph:
Lots of missing articles for MAG.

-- 3, SSID definition:
s/the IEEE/an IEEE/
s/one network to the other/ one network from another/

-- 5.1, reserved:
The reader’s “now” may be years from the authors' “now” :-) I suggest
something to the effect of "At the time of this writing"