Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to Internet Standard
"Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> Wed, 11 September 2013 12:13 UTC
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From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
To: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
Thread-Topic: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to Internet Standard
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to Internet Standard
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And relay agents don't route so why would they technically care about routing? The relay agent is usually co-located on a provider edge router and certainly these components often need to communicate. Thus, I don't think replacing with relay agent would be correct. - Bernie (from iPad) On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:04 AM, "Ole Troan" <otroan@employees.org> wrote: > Alexandru, > >>>> In RFC 3315 DHCPv6-PD there is a questionable use of the term >>>> 'provider edge router.' in a section describing the behaviour of >>>> the Relay agent: >>>> >>>> 14. Relay agent behavior >>>> >>>> A relay agent forwards messages containing Prefix Delegation >>>> options in the same way as described in section 20, "Relay Agent >>>> Behavior" of RFC 3315. >>>> >>>> If a delegating router communicates with a requesting router >>>> through a relay agent, the delegating router may need a protocol or >>>> other out-of-band communication to add routing information for >>>> delegated prefixes into the provider edge router. >>>> >>>> I wonder whether the Authors actually meant 'Relay Agent' by that >>>> 'provider edge router'. Because otherwise the term doesn't appear >>>> elsewhere in the document. >>> >>> (Assuming you meant RFC3633) Yes, s/provider edge router/relay >>> agent/ >> >> Yes, I meant RFC3633, and yes s/provider edge router/relay agent. >> >> That would make for an errata that one could suggest in the errata site? > > I'm not sure I see what difference it would make? > >>>> Also, did the authors of RFC3315 meant that a new protocol is >>>> needed between Server and Relay Agent? Or did they mean that >>>> inserting a routing table should happen by that 'out-of-band' means >>>> (and not 'out-of-band communication')? >>> >>> Not speaking for Ole, I meant that some other means, which might be a >>> protocol, manual configuration, etc., is needed to add routing >>> information into the relay agent. >> >> In that sense I agree with it. It is thus a problem that is already explicit in this RFC. > > everyone does this with snooping today, but that's not covered by any RFC. > the closest we got to exploring the options was in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stenberg-pd-route-maintenance-00 > > cheers, > Ole >
- [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to Intern… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- [dhcwg] Fwd: Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to I… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ole Troan
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ole Troan
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] errata to RFC 3633: s/provider edge r… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] errata to RFC 3633: s/provider edge r… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to In… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] RFC 3633 to Internet Standard Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] RFC 3633 to Internet Standard Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] discussion about PD-Relay-route Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] RFC 3633 to Internet Standard Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] RFC 3633 to Internet Standard Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] RFC 3633 to Internet Standard Ralph Droms