RE: [Diffserv] QoSSIG BOF
Yoram Bernet <yoramb@Exchange.Microsoft.com> Sat, 22 January 2000 02:22 UTC
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From: Yoram Bernet <yoramb@Exchange.Microsoft.com>
To: Istvan.I.Cselenyi@telia.se, RSVP <rsvp@isi.edu>, diffserv <diffserv@ietf.org>, end2end-interest@isi.edu
Cc: Ping Pan <pingpan@dnrc.bell-labs.com>, issll@lcs.mit.edu
Subject: RE: [Diffserv] QoSSIG BOF
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:10:36 -0800
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Actually, in response to the comment: "The ISSLL WG doesn't really suit to DS", I would point out that the ISSLL WG has been working for some time on the mapping of RSVP/Integrated services to DS. So - this statement is somewhat inaccurate. Nonetheless, I do think that it is appropriate ot have a forum to continue to discuss signaled QoS and its application. In fact, in the discussions preceeding the closing of the RSVP group, it was suggested that an RSVP implementation group might be formed. I would generally oppose the creation of a wroking group to start standardizing new layer-3 qos signaling protocols. Rather, I would encourage continuing the work on using RSVP in a scalable manner to unify the various disparate layer-2 QoS mechanisms in an end-to-end manner (as well as layer-3 hop by hop mechanisms such as diffserv)... Yoram -----Original Message----- From: Istvan Cselenyi [mailto:Istvan.I.Cselenyi@telia.se] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:53 AM To: RSVP; diffserv; end2end-interest@isi.edu Cc: Ping Pan Subject: [Diffserv] QoSSIG BOF Reading Ping's and earlier threads [1-3] and works [4-11] it seems that there are many people who want to contribute to the future of signaled QoS, but there is no IETF charter for aggregating all these good (not best :-) efforts since * the DS WG excludes new signaling by (re)definition * the MPLS WG deals with QoS routing and TE which are different * the ISSLL WG doesn't really suit to DS * the RSVP WG is closing done Shall we start with a BOF in Adelaide? /Istvan ------------------------------ Links [1] http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/diff-serv-arch/msg00057.html [2] http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/diff-serv-arch/msg03288.html [3] http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/diff-serv-arch/msg04872.html [4] http://icawww1.epfl.ch/srp/ [5] http://www.it.kth.se/~gk/Tyrrhenian-ws.ps [6] P. White, J. Crowcroft, A Case for Dynamic Sender-Initiated Reservation in the Internet, Journal on High Speed Networks, Special Issue on QoS Routing and Signaling, Vol 7 No 2, 1998 [7] A. Eriksson, C. Gehrmann, "Robust and Secure Light- weight Resource Reservation for Unicast IP Traffic", International WS on QoS'98, IWQoS'98, May 18-20, 1998 [8] http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gibson-sip-qos-resv-00.txt [9] http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sinnreich-interdomain-sip-qos-o sp-00.txt [10] http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-insignia-01.txt [11] http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bergkvist-boomerang-spec-00.txt -------------------------------------------------- Istvan Cselenyi Telia Research AB Phone: +46-8-7138173 Vitsandsgatan 9 B431 Fax: +46-8-7138199 S-12386 Farsta Mobile: +46-70-3228801 Sweden E-mail: Istvan.I.Cselenyi@telia.se -------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ diffserv mailing list diffserv@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/diffserv Archive: http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/diff-serv-arch/ _______________________________________________ diffserv mailing list diffserv@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/diffserv Archive: http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/diff-serv-arch/
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