Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ietf-diffserv-new-terms-06.txt
Dan Grossman <dan@dma.isg.mot.com> Mon, 19 November 2001 16:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ietf-diffserv-new-terms-06.txt
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Express it will be. > "Express" is better. I am ok with that. > Thanks. > Andrea > > -----Original Message----- > From: diffserv-admin@ietf.org [mailto:diffserv-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf > Of Brian E Carpenter > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:45 AM > To: Andrea Westerinen > Cc: Scott Brim; Dan Grossman; Diffserv@Ietf. Org; Policy@Ietf. Org; Bert > Wijnen (Bert) > Subject: Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for > draft-ietf-diffserv-new-terms-06.txt > > > The way we have taken to using the word "policy" in our technology is > a bit strange - in normal English, "policy" is more abstract and general > than a specific set of rules. Hence the problem, I think. > > How about "express" instead of "define"? > > Brian > > Andrea Westerinen wrote: > > > > But, my issue is with the word, "define" or "specify". IMHO, the SLS > > "defines" the values or behavior, and the rules "act on" or "realize" the > > definition. I didn't equate "implement" with "implementation", but I can > > see the problem with that word. > > > > Does "realize" make it better or worse ("... the set of rules that realize > > the parameters and range ...")? > > > > Andrea > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: diffserv-admin@ietf.org [mailto:diffserv-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf > > Of Scott Brim > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 2:45 PM > > To: Andrea Westerinen > > Cc: Dan Grossman; Diffserv@Ietf. Org; Policy@Ietf. Org; Bert Wijnen > > (Bert) > > Subject: Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for > > draft-ietf-diffserv-new-terms-06.txt > > > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 05:55:31PM -0800, Andrea Westerinen wrote: > > > Focusing on #4. > > > > > > The text says ... "Therefore, the relationship between an SLS and a > > service > > > provisioning policy is that the latter is, in part, the set of rules > that > > > define the parameters and range of values that may be in the former." > > > > > > <Dan> My inclination at this point is to leave it as it is, unless > Andrea > > > can come > > > up with a concise sentence or two that can be dropped in. I think that > > > policy > > > aware readers will understand that we don't intend to be restrictive, > and > > > non-policy aware readers won't be confused. > > > > > > Can we say "the set of rules that IMPLEMENT the parameters and range of > > > values ..."? My problem is with the word DEFINES. > > > > "Implements" is worse because the rules have nothing to do with > > implementation (a standardization absolute). If you think "defines" > > crosses a boundary, I suggest "specifies". > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > diffserv mailing list > diffserv@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/diffserv > Archive: > http://www2.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/diffserv/current/maillist.h > tml > > _______________________________________________ diffserv mailing list diffserv@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/diffserv Archive: http://www2.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/diffserv/current/maillist.html
- [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ietf-d… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ie… C. M. Heard
- Re: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ie… Dan Grossman
- FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ie… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Dan Grossman
- RE: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Dan Grossman
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Scott Bradner
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Dan Grossman
- Re: [Policy] Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last … Robert Moore
- Re: [Policy] Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last … Scott Bradner
- RE: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Scott Brim
- RE: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draf… Dan Grossman
- [Diffserv] Re: Informal WG last call for draft-ie… Brian E Carpenter