Re: [Dime] DOIC M-Bit usage (was Re: WLGC #2 for draft-ietf-dime-ovli-06)

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Fri, 23 January 2015 15:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] DOIC M-Bit usage (was Re: WLGC #2 for draft-ietf-dime-ovli-06)
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On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com> wrote:

What's the point of 2)? It still introduces a way that a DOIC extension might cause the application transaction to fail. Do we want that?

On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com> wrote:

I would propose the following resolution to the M-bit issue:

1) We say that new extensions MUST NOT require the M-bit be set for new sub-AVPs of the OC-Supported-Features AVP or the OC-OLR AVP.

2) We indicate that if there a new extension includes behavior that requires 6733 defined M-bit behavior then the new extension can define a new AVP. It just can't make that new AVP part of OC-Supported-Features or OC-OLR.
SRD> Well, there's nothing we can do to prevent it, which makes it redundant to even say it.  So, I plan to do 1).  I'll wait until Monday to publish -07 (assuming we have resolution to all the issues) to give our European friends a chance to comment.


Works for me.
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