Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID AVPs
"David Lehmann" <dlehmann@ulticom.com> Tue, 31 August 2010 14:36 UTC
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From: David Lehmann <dlehmann@ulticom.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID AVPs
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Glen, That is not what the spec says. At least, the wording is not clear and, IMHO, is misleading. In which "some message" can the session-id AVP be in any position? It seems to me that the wording in section 8.8 should be: "When present, the Session-Id MUST appear immediately following the Diameter Header (see Section 3)." -- David Lehmann Ulticom, Inc. 856-787-2952 From: Glen Zorn [mailto:gwz@net-zen.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:54 AM To: David Lehmann Cc: dime@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID AVPs David Lehmann [mailto://dlehmann@ulticom.com] <mailto:[mailto://dlehmann@ulticom.com%5d> writes: Hello, Hello. In RFC 3588 (and 3588bis), messages with session IDs are defined with the session ID AVPs with a fixed position which is immediately following the header. (e.g. section 8.3.1) Yes. However, this is in contradiction with section 8.8 which states, "When present, the Session-Id SHOULD appear immediately following the Diameter Header (see Section 3)." No. By using "SHOULD", the spec is stating that the session-ID AVP could be in any position in the message. No, it is stating that the AVP could be in any position in some message. The syntax of the existing messages in RFC 3588 is defined by the associated BNF and in those messages the Session-Id AVP must immediately follow the Diameter header. Hope this helps. ~gwz
- [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID AVPs David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Victor Fajardo
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Victor Fajardo
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Victor Fajardo
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Victor Fajardo
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Tina TSOU
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Victor Fajardo
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Victor Fajardo
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… David Lehmann
- Re: [Dime] RFC 3588 - fixed positioned session-ID… Glen Zorn