[Dime] RE : Fwd: Draft minutes available

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Hi,

Please see below.



-------- Message d'origine --------
Objet : Fwd: [Dime] Draft minutes available
De : Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>
A : MORAND Lionel OLNC/OLN <lionel.morand@orange.com>,Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>
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> I have a few minor comments and corrections for the draft minutes:
>
> -- in the overload-reqs discussion:
>
>> Keith - This is a requirements doc, thus no one will implement this. The MUST constrains the working group on the solution doc. There is no problem with text here. MUST vs SHOULD - we want to say MUST here. If there's problem with the MUST, you should constrain it the following text.
>>
>> Lionel - I don't understand. There's no way to do this without a new application ID. You would need to go through dedicated proxies to do this.
>
> I thought Lionel was commenting that the "new application" approach for moving overload control info around wouldn't be able to solve the Req 35 (crossing non-supporting intermediaries) use case. Did I misunderstand the comment?
>
Ben is right. I said that a new application will only be able to go through existing relay and redirect agent and not through "legacy" proxies i.e. Not supporting/advertising the new application.
So the question is simple: in the requirement elaboration phase, are we sure that a solution based on a new App-id will be rejected? If not, the "Should" is meaningful. If yes, this is a strong requirement draft and this must be stated somewhere in the draft.

Regards,

Lionel

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