Re: [Dime] Topic 2 of draft-ietf-dime-congestion-flow-attributes-00 - Use Cases

Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> Tue, 15 July 2014 17:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] Topic 2 of draft-ietf-dime-congestion-flow-attributes-00 - Use Cases
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Brent,

I do agree with your conclusion that adding examples would be minimal 
incremental addition to what RFC5777 already has. Also, IMHO use cases 
for ECN should be rather well known. I see no reason to add text for 
"topic 2".

- Jouni


4/29/2014 5:35 PM, Hirschman, Brent B [CTO] kirjoitti:
> At IETF 89 in London, during the discussion of the
> draft-ietf-dime-congestion-flow-attributes-00.txt, Two areas were
> requested to be investigated further.  We will be addressing them in
> separate email threads to keep the discussion focused on each topic.
> This is Topic 2:
>
> Second, we were requested to investigate providing example use cases of
> ECN.  RFC5777 already provides a set of use cases for reporting and ECN
> is just one of many such reporting parameters such as byte count.
> Adding a paragraph of text such as the following may add some
> information but the authors feel little incremental information is
> needed because of the work already in RFC 5777.
>
> “Diameter nodes along the bearer path can implement filters to collect
> accounting and policy control information based on these congestion
> parameters similar to byte count information. These filters on flows and
> overall node congestion for these AVPs can report a measure of quality
> of byte counts to collection points in the network where decisions can
> be made to mitigate or mediate any congestion conditions for accounting
> or real time policy control. These AVPs provide supplemental information
> as described in the use cases discussed in RFC5777.”
>
> Thus, the authors are proposing no modification to the working group
> draft at this time.  Comments are welcome.
>
> */Brent Hirschman/*
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