Re: I-D.klensin-unicode-escapes (was: New Draft)

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 06 February 2007 00:35 UTC

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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:34:59 -0500
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>, Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
Subject: Re: I-D.klensin-unicode-escapes (was: New Draft)
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--On Monday, 05 February, 2007 23:15 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer
<bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 02:05:34PM +0100,
>  Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> wrote 
>  a message of 34 lines which said:
> 
>> Probably the I-D should mention that one famous exception
>> from its rule to avoid encoded UTF-8 is the URL form of IRIs.
> 
> And the protocol described in RFC 2324 :-)

Now _that_ is clearly the important one, probably sufficiently
so to make an exception to my principle that we should not start
enumerating protocols that might or might not need escapes and
might or might not use encoded UTF-8.

On the other hand, perhaps it is time to start working on
RFC2324bis to permit it to accept other escape characters and to
fully generalize its device control interface formats.

Thanks.  I needed that.

     john