Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes-00.txt
"Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@demon.net> Mon, 22 January 2007 08:48 UTC
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From: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@demon.net>
To: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>
Subject: Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes-00.txt
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John C Klensin said:
> If you have any interest in internationalization issues, a
> careful reading of, and comments on, this proposal would be
> greatly appreciated.
Please remove the term "extended ASCII" from 1.1 - there is no such thing.
If you want to talk about an 8 bit character set, then "the ISO 8859
family" would do.
At the end of 3.1, you can't say "the same considerations" apply to
Punycode and such encodings, because they *are* more compact (your third
and textually closest point).
I disagree with the claim that the \u notation is easier to read and less
"ugly and awkward" than the HTML one. Is:
Ank\uabcdef
really easier to parse than:
Ankꯍef
? I think - particularly in contexts using alphabetic text - that having a
clear and obvious delimiter is much more preferable and will produce far
less mistakes.
I can accept that the specific HTML notation is a bit clumsy, and in
particular that the use of 'x' implies other bases are available. Therefore
I would prefer something like \u(xxxx).
The text in 3.2 implies that \U is followed by 6 digits, not 8. That risk
of confusion (particularly since Unicode ends at U+10FFFF) is itself
reason for concern with any undelimited option.
I haven't seen a "consensus" that there isn't a problem with being
case-sensitive; the fact that you messed up the ABNF on this particular
point is evidence that this is unwise. I know C does it that way (and in
retrospect, I would have fought harder for doing it differently), but C has
always been case sensitive in such matters. IETF protocols mostly aren't.
Reference [ISO-C-Chars] is wrong - the \u and \U notation was added to
ISO 9899 in the 1999 edition, not in that TR. They aren't extensions; they
are part of the core language.
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- FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes-00.… John C Klensin
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… Keith Moore
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… Keith Moore
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… John C Klensin
- Escaping the escape (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-klensi… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: Escaping the escape (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-kl… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: Escaping the escape (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-kl… Julian Reschke
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Escaping the escape (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-kl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Escaping the escape (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-kl… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… John C Klensin
- Re: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-unicode-escapes… Clive D.W. Feather