Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity

"DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Tue, 05 March 2013 12:11 UTC

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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: "Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)" <rifatyu@avaya.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "dispatch@ietf.org" <dispatch@ietf.org>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:10:39 +0100
Thread-Topic: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
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Remember that the IANA considerations needs to deal with all existing usages and that now includes bliss-call-completions.

If you create a new registry, you need to define the policy for adding to that registry.

This is the "purpose" header field parameter, rather than just "purpose" parameter. Amend throughout.

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
> Sent: 04 March 2013 21:51
> To: Paul Kyzivat; dispatch@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
> 
> Ok. I will clean up the draft and submit it to the SIPCORE when the
> submission tool reopens next week.
> 
> Regards,
>  Rifaat
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:27 PM
> > To: dispatch@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
> >
> > On 3/5/13 3:25 AM, Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat) wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Today, there is no registry for the "purpose" values in the Call-Info
> > header.
> > > Mary and I have an open issue around this in the following draft, as
> > we would like to register a "ccmp" value.
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yusef-dispatch-ccmp-
> > indication/?include_text=1
> >
> > Recently sipcore seems to have gotten into the business of establishing
> > missing registries for 3261. We can certainly do another one.
> >
> > 	Thanks,
> > 	Paul
> >
> > > Please, keep us posted on your discussion with IANA on this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >   Rifaat
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org]
> > On
> > >> Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:04 PM
> > >> To: Olle E. Johansson
> > >> Cc: Cullen Jennings (fluffy); dispatch@ietf.org; Emil Ivov
> > >> Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> On 3/4/13 1:51 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> 3 mar 2013 kl. 14:12 skrev "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)"
> > >>> <fluffy@cisco.com>:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you don't want to do the vcard but just want the xmpp address
> > >>>> directly, I'd probably suggest something like
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Call-Info: <xmpp:aice@example.com> ;purpose=impp
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To just indicate that the URL provided the IM and Presence
> > >>>> service for that user
> > >>>>
> > >>>> RFC 3261 section 20.9 says that the IANA section of 3261 will
> > >>>> define how to add a new purpose but as far as I can tell it does
> > >>>> not. However, the IANA SIP registry for the URI purpose at
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters/sip-
> > >> parameters.xml#sip-parameters-13
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> is just spec required so I think think you might be able to trivial
> > add
> > >> a "impp" purpose.
> > >>> Shouldn't the purposes in RFC 3261 be added to that registry too?
> > >>
> > >> Hej Olle,
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, I went searching for those in the registry yesterday and
> > >> couldn't find them. It sounds like someone needs to register them.
> > >>
> > >> RFC 3261 says:
> > >>
> > >>     The Call-Info header field provides additional information about
> > the
> > >>     caller or callee, depending on whether it is found in a request
> > or
> > >>     response.  The purpose of the URI is described by the "purpose"
> > >>     parameter.  The "icon" parameter designates an image suitable as
> > an
> > >>     iconic representation of the caller or callee.  The "info"
> > parameter
> > >>     describes the caller or callee in general, for example, through
> > a
> > >> web
> > >>     page.  The "card" parameter provides a business card, for
> > example,
> > >> in
> > >>     vCard [36] or LDIF [37] formats.  Additional tokens can be
> > >> registered
> > >>     using IANA and the procedures in Section 27.
> > >>
> > >> Actually, I think "icon", "info", and "card" are values of the
> > >> "purpose" parameter, not parameters in themselves, right?
> > >>
> > >> I find the Header Field Parameters and Parameter Values registry a
> > bit
> > >> confusing:
> > >>
> > >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters/sip-
> > parameters.xml#sip-
> > >> parameters-12
> > >>
> > >> Some of those header fields have predefined values. It's not clear
> > to
> > >> me if those values need to be registered. Section 20.9 of RFC 3261
> > >> says they do, but Section 27 doesn't say how. (When oh when is
> > someone
> > >> going to work on 3261bis? ;-)
> > >>
> > >> Olle/Emil, how about you and I take this up with IANA folks during
> > >> their office hours in Orlando?
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >> - --
> > >> Peter Saint-Andre
> > >> https://stpeter.im/
> > >>
> > >>
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