Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: "Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)" <rifatyu@avaya.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "dispatch@ietf.org" <dispatch@ietf.org>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:10:39 +0100
Thread-Topic: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity
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Remember that the IANA considerations needs to deal with all existing usages and that now includes bliss-call-completions. If you create a new registry, you need to define the policy for adding to that registry. This is the "purpose" header field parameter, rather than just "purpose" parameter. Amend throughout. Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat) > Sent: 04 March 2013 21:51 > To: Paul Kyzivat; dispatch@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity > > Ok. I will clean up the draft and submit it to the SIPCORE when the > submission tool reopens next week. > > Regards, > Rifaat > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:27 PM > > To: dispatch@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity > > > > On 3/5/13 3:25 AM, Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat) wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > > > Today, there is no registry for the "purpose" values in the Call-Info > > header. > > > Mary and I have an open issue around this in the following draft, as > > we would like to register a "ccmp" value. > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yusef-dispatch-ccmp- > > indication/?include_text=1 > > > > Recently sipcore seems to have gotten into the business of establishing > > missing registries for 3261. We can certainly do another one. > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > > Please, keep us posted on your discussion with IANA on this. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rifaat > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] > > On > > >> Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre > > >> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:04 PM > > >> To: Olle E. Johansson > > >> Cc: Cullen Jennings (fluffy); dispatch@ietf.org; Emil Ivov > > >> Subject: Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >> Hash: SHA1 > > >> > > >> On 3/4/13 1:51 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: > > >>> > > >>> 3 mar 2013 kl. 14:12 skrev "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" > > >>> <fluffy@cisco.com>: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> If you don't want to do the vcard but just want the xmpp address > > >>>> directly, I'd probably suggest something like > > >>>> > > >>>> Call-Info: <xmpp:aice@example.com> ;purpose=impp > > >>>> > > >>>> To just indicate that the URL provided the IM and Presence > > >>>> service for that user > > >>>> > > >>>> RFC 3261 section 20.9 says that the IANA section of 3261 will > > >>>> define how to add a new purpose but as far as I can tell it does > > >>>> not. However, the IANA SIP registry for the URI purpose at > > >>>> > > >>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters/sip- > > >> parameters.xml#sip-parameters-13 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> is just spec required so I think think you might be able to trivial > > add > > >> a "impp" purpose. > > >>> Shouldn't the purposes in RFC 3261 be added to that registry too? > > >> > > >> Hej Olle, > > >> > > >> Yeah, I went searching for those in the registry yesterday and > > >> couldn't find them. It sounds like someone needs to register them. > > >> > > >> RFC 3261 says: > > >> > > >> The Call-Info header field provides additional information about > > the > > >> caller or callee, depending on whether it is found in a request > > or > > >> response. The purpose of the URI is described by the "purpose" > > >> parameter. The "icon" parameter designates an image suitable as > > an > > >> iconic representation of the caller or callee. The "info" > > parameter > > >> describes the caller or callee in general, for example, through > > a > > >> web > > >> page. The "card" parameter provides a business card, for > > example, > > >> in > > >> vCard [36] or LDIF [37] formats. Additional tokens can be > > >> registered > > >> using IANA and the procedures in Section 27. > > >> > > >> Actually, I think "icon", "info", and "card" are values of the > > >> "purpose" parameter, not parameters in themselves, right? > > >> > > >> I find the Header Field Parameters and Parameter Values registry a > > bit > > >> confusing: > > >> > > >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters/sip- > > parameters.xml#sip- > > >> parameters-12 > > >> > > >> Some of those header fields have predefined values. It's not clear > > to > > >> me if those values need to be registered. Section 20.9 of RFC 3261 > > >> says they do, but Section 27 doesn't say how. (When oh when is > > someone > > >> going to work on 3261bis? ;-) > > >> > > >> Olle/Emil, how about you and I take this up with IANA folks during > > >> their office hours in Orlando? > > >> > > >> Peter > > >> > > >> - -- > > >> Peter Saint-Andre > > >> https://stpeter.im/ > > >> > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) > > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > >> > > >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRNPAPAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pgvwP/jnZrFSx3H82349715qd6jN2 > > >> /rWF+VLF73tEBHX/ssBaBr4Kwu/RJ+oYK6+jNYbpiq9cmUEsSLjOJOY0frygUHej > > >> rE/uV5CtXwkn453yWX2ocEUHXI5bnrgENXxqPy2YITXETogf+Ybbs00IrvneMzdL > > >> FVnxYXFYVWKmKIPbgrGxVD4xDH030yQyxzewUDm6TrF/R3LoSlwULYxle4jfgyYm > > >> 3bVh64DBsQto39MvtY32abHP1WF1Iav76o7GT0aBb3A09Xv+NkmyRk3EpSbUpj0K > > >> 0zksaLV3bXivBKKjjC3tV9QiDPCD5bYfqQh5UyiJ+PVYOxGFOt191AfH+8oqyowV > > >> cpMXDWPeewRoUaskuTyXsPgL5TiCoeBzOgDF+SnLHk5Uq78tjyrH5YJOHD2Zd1AS > > >> LKn0Xqnb2yZdeFqCEoBAZfAo5W64dj5FF+03+98NxJ4IKFHBob6x/NpeSc3EAvit > > >> iJxzki6l+MpdK2yd6SbvaMPf2UlqOXBpPuDmxM1SlmgJbWFV3BpvoOjGGHGQcz+v > > >> 3W13GAv4HXp3LtpgCduAUtBmDsMxydPwy+Zsm2bhkr0XChK9VX2HqbktaU2qOHU5 > > >> QOLqLh5RWFcdK4WVkEtqoNvwHVFq53zC25Ujnq/niBUBm7lvHpuO0E029Gu0AtMY > > >> WnUZHMGNtbAV+KlfHip2 > > >> =7auh > > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> dispatch mailing list > > >> dispatch@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dispatch mailing list > > > dispatch@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dispatch mailing list > > dispatch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Emil Ivov
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Emil Ivov
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Dale R. Worley
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Emil Ivov
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Dale R. Worley
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Dale R. Worley
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Emil Ivov
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Emil Ivov
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Dale R. Worley
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Dale R. Worley
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] URI schemes in P-Asserted-Identity Cullen Jennings (fluffy)