Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping

Saúl Ibarra Corretgé <saul@ag-projects.com> Wed, 20 February 2013 21:03 UTC

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Emil Ivov wrote:

> Mapping SIP to XMPP is something I personally view as very important and
> this proposal seems very reasonable and well targeted at addressing the
> issue.
> 

+1.

> Emil
> 
> On 15.02.13, 23:37, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping
>> DISPATCH WG
>> IETF 86, Orlando
>> 
>> Problem Statement
>> 
>> The IETF has defined two signalling technologies that can be used
>> for multimedia session negotiation, instant messaging, presence,
>> file transfer, capabilities discovery, notifications, and other types of
>> real-time functionality:
>> 
>> o  The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), along with various SIP
>>   extensions developed within the SIP for Instant Messaging and
>>   Presence Leveraging Extensions (SIMPLE) Working Group.
>> 
>> o  The Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), along
>>   with various XMPP extensions developed by the IETF as well as by
>>   the XMPP Standards Foundation.
>> 
>> SIP has been focused primarily on media session negotiation (e.g. audio
>> and video), whereas XMPP has been focused primarily on messaging and
>> presence.  As a result, the technologies are mostly complementary.
>> However, there is also some overlap between SIP and XMPP, since there
>> are SIP extensions for messaging, presence, groupchat, file transfer
>> (etc.) and there are XMPP extensions for multimedia session negotiation.
>> This overlap has practical implications, since some deployed services
>> use SIP for both media and (broadly) messaging, whereas other deployed
>> services use XMPP for both messaging and media.  When such services wish
>> to exchange information, they often need to translate their native
>> protocol (either SIP or XMPP) to the other protocol (either XMPP or
>> SIP).
>> 
>> Implementers needing to perform such protocol mappings have often worked
>> out their own heuristics for doing so.  Unfortunately, these heuristics
>> are not always consistent, which can lead to interoperability problems.
>> 
>> Objectives
>> 
>> To make it easier for implementers to enable interworking between
>> SIP-based systems and XMPP-based systems, several Internet-Drafts have
>> defined guidelines for protocol mapping between SIP and XMPP, starting
>> with draft-saintandre-xmpp-simple-00 in early 2004.  The current
>> documents are:
>> 
>> draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-core
>> draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-presence
>> draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-im
>> draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-chat
>> draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat
>> 
>> These documents are quite stable and the authors have received feedback
>> from a number of implementers over the years.  However, implementers do
>> not always know about these documents because they are Internet-Drafts
>> and sometimes have expired.  Thus it would be helpful to polish them off
>> and publish them as RFCs (and perhaps other documents in the same series,
>> covering topics like media signalling, capabilities discovery, and file
>> transfer).
>> 
>> Deliverables
>> 
>> 1. Address mapping and error handling
>> 2. Presence mapping
>> 3. Mapping for single instant messages
>> 4. Mapping for one-to-one text chat sessions
>> 5. Mapping for multi-user text chat sessions
>> 
>> Any additional work would require a recharter.
>> 
>> Milestones
>> 
>> To be determined.
>> 
>> ###
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