Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping
Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com> Wed, 20 February 2013 10:04 UTC
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:04:31 +0100
From: Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com>
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping
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Me too, especially considering there's a strong basis of pre-existing work to start from. L. Il giorno Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:19:37 +0100 Simon Pietro Romano <spromano@unina.it> ha scritto: > I strongly support this work. > > Simon > > Il giorno 15/feb/2013, alle ore 23:37, Peter Saint-Andre ha scritto: > > > Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping > > DISPATCH WG > > IETF 86, Orlando > > > > Problem Statement > > > > The IETF has defined two signalling technologies that can be used > > for multimedia session negotiation, instant messaging, presence, > > file transfer, capabilities discovery, notifications, and other > > types of real-time functionality: > > > > o The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), along with various SIP > > extensions developed within the SIP for Instant Messaging and > > Presence Leveraging Extensions (SIMPLE) Working Group. > > > > o The Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), along > > with various XMPP extensions developed by the IETF as well as by > > the XMPP Standards Foundation. > > > > SIP has been focused primarily on media session negotiation (e.g. > > audio and video), whereas XMPP has been focused primarily on > > messaging and presence. As a result, the technologies are mostly > > complementary. However, there is also some overlap between SIP and > > XMPP, since there are SIP extensions for messaging, presence, > > groupchat, file transfer (etc.) and there are XMPP extensions for > > multimedia session negotiation. This overlap has practical > > implications, since some deployed services use SIP for both media > > and (broadly) messaging, whereas other deployed services use XMPP > > for both messaging and media. When such services wish to exchange > > information, they often need to translate their native protocol > > (either SIP or XMPP) to the other protocol (either XMPP or SIP). > > > > Implementers needing to perform such protocol mappings have often > > worked out their own heuristics for doing so. Unfortunately, these > > heuristics are not always consistent, which can lead to > > interoperability problems. > > > > Objectives > > > > To make it easier for implementers to enable interworking between > > SIP-based systems and XMPP-based systems, several Internet-Drafts > > have defined guidelines for protocol mapping between SIP and XMPP, > > starting with draft-saintandre-xmpp-simple-00 in early 2004. The > > current documents are: > > > > draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-core > > draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-presence > > draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-im > > draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-chat > > draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat > > > > These documents are quite stable and the authors have received > > feedback from a number of implementers over the years. However, > > implementers do not always know about these documents because they > > are Internet-Drafts and sometimes have expired. Thus it would be > > helpful to polish them off and publish them as RFCs (and perhaps > > other documents in the same series, covering topics like media > > signalling, capabilities discovery, and file transfer). > > > > Deliverables > > > > 1. Address mapping and error handling > > 2. Presence mapping > > 3. Mapping for single instant messages > > 4. Mapping for one-to-one text chat sessions > > 5. Mapping for multi-user text chat sessions > > > > Any additional work would require a recharter. > > > > Milestones > > > > To be determined. > > > > ### > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dispatch mailing list > > dispatch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > > > > _\\|//_ > ( O-O ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Simon Pietro > Romano Universita' di Napoli Federico II > Computer Engineering Department > Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7683816 > e-mail: spromano@unina.it > > <<Molti mi dicono che lo scoraggiamento Ë l'alibi > degli idioti. Ci rifletto un istante; e mi scoraggio>>. Magritte. > oooO > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~( )~~~ Oooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > \ > ( ( ) \_) ) / > (_/ > > > > > -- Lorenzo Miniero, COB Meetecho s.r.l. Web Conferencing and Collaboration Tools http://www.meetecho.com
- [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dispatch] [External] Charter Proposal: SIP-X… Christou, Christos [USA]
- Re: [dispatch] [External] Charter Proposal: SIP-X… Ben Campbell
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Simon Pietro Romano
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Emil Ivov
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Michael Lundberg
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Ross, Christopher [USA]
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: SIP-XMPP Mapping Peter Saint-Andre