Re: [dispatch] New draft draft-mohali-dispatch-originating-cdiv-parameter-00.txt

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 29 March 2016 15:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] New draft draft-mohali-dispatch-originating-cdiv-parameter-00.txt
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On 3/29/16 2:34 AM, marianne.mohali@orange.com wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thank you for your feedback!
>
>  From my view, I was thinking that only one P-Served-User (with one session-case) can be present in a request at the same time.
> Eg: A calls B which has a CDIV service. The incoming request to B will contain a P-Served-User with the session case 'term', then the AS triggering CDIV service will remove this entry containing the 'term' session case and replace it by a P-Served-User (with the same user) but the 'orig-cdiv' session case to indicate to the S-CSCF which iFC apply.
>
> For that, I'm not sure we can have the P-Served-User repeated. How does the receiving entity will know what to do and for "who" if there are several choices?

I'm just going by what I read - I don't otherwise know how you imagine 
it being used. If you think there can be only one instance of this 
header field at a time, and it might be revised/replaced/removed along 
the way, then it would be good to say that.

I was thinking that you might have multiple instances with different 
modifiers, indicating different *kinds* of served users.

	Thanks,
	Paul

> BR,
> Marianne
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : dispatch [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Paul Kyzivat
> Envoyé : mercredi 23 mars 2016 15:23
> À : Christer Holmberg; dispatch@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [dispatch] New draft draft-mohali-dispatch-originating-cdiv-parameter-00.txt
>
> On 3/23/16 2:45 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As far as I remember, in SIP all "repeatable" header fields shall also
>> be "comma separabable".
>>
>> I can't think of a header field where that would not be the case.
>
> The header fields with that property have syntax to match.
>
> The syntax in 5502 doesn't support that for this header field. If that was then intent then the syntax should be revised.
>
> 	Thanks,
> 	Paul
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Christer
>>
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>> From: Paul Kyzivat <mailto:pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
>> Sent: ‎22/‎03/‎2016 20:31
>> To: dispatch@ietf.org <mailto:dispatch@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [dispatch] New draft
>> draft-mohali-dispatch-originating-cdiv-parameter-00.txt
>>
>> Marianne,
>>
>> Thank you. This draft is a huge improvement over the prior proposal
>> for this purpose!
>>
>> I don't have a problem with this approach. The draft seems in
>> reasonable shape. (I didn't read it for nits, as doing that seems
>> premature.)
>>
>> One thing I noticed, which is really an issue with rfc5502:
>>
>> The P-Served-User header field doesn't seem to have the usual
>> provision of headers like this for comma-separated repetition. And
>> there is no mention pro or con regarding whether this header field can be repeated.
>> Since it can already have both orig and term options, that presumably
>> can coexist, I guess it can be repeated, but not using comma. Is that
>> how it is being used in practice?
>>
>> It would be wise to clarify the ways in which this header field may be
>> repeated. (E.g., every usage must have a distinct value of
>> sessioncase-param.) And if multiple values separated by comma are
>> being used in practice then the syntax ought to be corrected to allow that.
>>
>>           Thanks,
>>           Paul
>>
>> On 3/21/16 3:24 PM, marianne.mohali@orange.com wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Please find hereafter a new Internet-Draft  "P-Served-User Header Field Parameter for Originating CDIV session case in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)".
>>> The purpose of the draft is to register a new SIP parameter for the P-Served-User header field defined as per RFC5502.
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>      This specification defines a new Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) P-
>>>      Served-User header field parameter, "orig-cdiv-param", which defines
>>>      the session case used by a proxy when handling an originating session
>>>      after Call Diversion (CDIV) services has been invoked for the served
>>>      user.  The P-Served-User header field is defined in [RFC5502].  The
>>>      P-Served-User header field conveys the identity of the served user
>>>      and the session case that applies to this particular communication
>>>      session and application invocation.
>>>      This document updates [RFC5502] in order to add the originating after
>>>      CDIV session case.
>>>
>>> The draft can be found in :
>>> URL:https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mohali-dispatch-origin
>>> ating-cdiv-parameter-00.txt
>>> Status:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mohali-dispatch-origina
>>> ting-cdiv-parameter/
>>> Htmlized:https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mohali-dispatch-originatin
>>> g-cdiv-parameter-00
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Marianne Mohali
>>>
>>>
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