Re: [dispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-johnston-dispatch-osrtp-00.txt

Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston@gmail.com> Fri, 10 July 2015 01:18 UTC

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Martin,

That makes perfect sense.  I'll change it in the next version to fail the
session if the key agreement fails.

- Alan -

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 8 July 2015 at 11:42, Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was on the fence about this one.  Agree that it shouldn't happen for
> > DTLS-SRTP or ZRTP, but I could imagine it happening for certain MIKEY
> modes.
> > Should that really fail the whole session?
>
> At the point that you have established that both peers support a
> common baseline, accepting downgrade from that baseline removes any of
> the benefit that an opportunistic upgrade provided.  An attacker that
> can't attack your signaling now has a chance to downgrade you.
>
> I've no good information on what MIKEY mode might fail and how, but
> that seems like a problem you could address specifically without
> weakening other options.
>