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Re: [dispatch] Status of Haptics I-D in DISPATCH?

Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com> Mon, 03 May 2021 10:39 UTC

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From: Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
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Thread-Topic: Status of Haptics I-D in DISPATCH?
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Hi all,

Murray and I are still looking for guidance from the community on how to process the Haptics proposal discussed in Dispatch at IETF109:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-muthusamy-dispatch-haptics-01 

During the IETF109 meeting (minutes: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-109-dispatch/ ) and previous mailing list discussion [1], there was general support on progressing this work. Murray has previously asked the mailing list if the community thinks this is better done as either a short-lived working group or as AD sponsored [2], but got no answer. This is concerning for us, as if there is no energy to work on this proposal, spinning a wg out of it with enough active participants or even getting enough reviews to ensure IETF consensus might not be doable. So this is us reaching out one more time to hear if there is interested people who would be willing to get involved, and if so hearing your opinion if you think this should go through as AD sponsored or will need its own wg (my preference).

Francesca


[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dispatch/Tv-4_ZUwASBjs-DrgOR5I0oSDcQ/ 
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dispatch/GIYE2v8UkxkBVHlF3FHjT8Tmi3k/

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