Re: [Diversity] The nature of the IETF

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Fri, 15 July 2016 17:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Diversity] The nature of the IETF
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Hi Nalini,
At 06:03 15-07-2016, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>Please, let's have a conversation.   I am quite interested in your 
>thoughts.  Is using "cultural issues" too broad a term or somehow 
>offensive?  I would like to learn what is better to use or how to 
>talk about this.   I really was not meaning to be offensive.

You have not said anything offensive or done anything which I might 
view as offensive.

The term is neither too broad nor is it offensive (in my opinion).  I 
am seen that term in use and I have used it too.  Around a year ago I 
noticed that some of the persons (not in the IETF) with whom I was 
communicating with did not understand what the term means.  Based on 
a few messages on ietf@ietf.org from people of different countries, 
my understanding is that the term might be read differently.  It may 
be easier to talk to people from different countries to understand 
how to talk about it.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy