Re: [dmarc-ietf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Scott Kitterman <scott@kitterman.com> Wed, 12 May 2021 02:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 4:17:10 PM EDT Barry Leiba wrote:
> >>> Section 4.1
> >>> 
> >>>    o  Multi-organization PSDs (e.g., ".com") that do not mandate DMARC
> >>>    
> >>>       usage: Privacy risks for Organizational Domains that have not
> >>>       deployed DMARC within such PSDs are significant.  For non-DMARC
> >>>       Organizational Domains, all DMARC feedback will be directed to the
> >>>       PSO.  PSD DMARC is opt-out (by publishing a DMARC record at the
> >>>       Organizational Domain level) vice opt-in, which would be the more
> >>>       desirable characteristic.  This means that any non-DMARC
> >>>       organizational domain would have its feedback reports redirected
> >>>       to the PSO.  The content of such reports, particularly for
> >>>       existing domains, is privacy sensitive.
> >>> 
> >>> It might be worth making some statement about the applicability of PSD
> >>> DMARC for such PSDs that do not mandate DMARC usage.  (I guess the
> >>> following paragraphs mostly play that role, though perhaps editorially
> >>> tying them together more clearly is possible.)
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure where you're going on this, but the following paragraphs do
> >> try to pull it together.  I've been trying to wordsmith these with little
> >> luck.
> >> 
> >> Also, it appears that the word "vice" above should be "versus".
> > 
> > I suspected it might :)
> 
> Actually, “vice” as a preposition has a meaning similar to “versus” (you
> could look it up).[1]
> 
> That said, I think that “versus” is better known and better understood, so,
> despite my general preference to avoid Latin terms and abbreviations, we
> should switch to “versus”.
> 
> Barry
> 
> 
> [1]  “You Could Look It Up” is a James Thurber reference:
> https://storyoftheweek.loa.org/2010/09/you-could-look-it-up.html

I think replacing vice with 'instead of' would more clearly capture the 
intent, but I think any of the three options are fine.

Scott K