Re: [dmarc-ietf] phase 1 is done

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Tue, 10 May 2016 17:21 UTC

Return-Path: <kurta@drkurt.com>
X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C039212D77A for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.7
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=drkurt.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id voZljjL2Z-zg for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 483BE12D13E for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-io0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 190so24386620iow.1 for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:52 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drkurt.com; s=20130612; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to; bh=3jkk+gsNrjtxvCPNlhF0tuZF//uooJa5QacvC7sjZrE=; b=K1QuKuxQvsB4fLczfOUMlHWxBlyURRSwFRlP3a88jQyBRvwunKtdglMNapJh7S1mln 2OSbsAphIXIxGdbcdQMwR+yEE/oDFPKAJ52nBVGwztyaxSuYfgtIy1GCx3MbT5YUp4xL izPwSULgvhIzyUHVOVASocqARtoqlXvv2WAG4=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=3jkk+gsNrjtxvCPNlhF0tuZF//uooJa5QacvC7sjZrE=; b=HF9r9dQTJeqmG0irBwyQWBs/1Jma4JFKZB/ec4kmB+mBYbNMmEhb5v3bLleAboc2X/ igWsPopz7EnG4g5dnBwCv870CFWEamaPg0/l/Sy6SBKQ4LENUvGZvIWzxIbG008+T+tD Ix5gKR1PxEwf42MuzbF2T5X4YwvT94f3kaxvqkuVAQEH5KVq2dzUGk/y5gKRpGy0mKgL aVWs9EyUbGh4kE7jJ9UV6F29POqADEij+CtdOAOBWJUDlEj5tjCSULEWWsPz/zX6OHaJ db5rSANVCosjRQrRQ3nSHvx+MXwC/i9QgWm/xYnO19D8Hquw09Htvo44OXffgkHUH9or zX4A==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWNKJ/2pLEUfcXqxmzO2Jm9KeE6CP8YFmVN0hxe/EWEKV/74Za9WmR2CCgr/lFWzReEjn1wTKUPil0ReA==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.36.26.134 with SMTP id 128mr2035308iti.28.1462900911495; Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
Sender: kurta@drkurt.com
Received: by 10.107.20.202 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CF665F1C-CB0C-4548-B49D-933F9EFAF03C@eudaemon.net>
References: <CF665F1C-CB0C-4548-B49D-933F9EFAF03C@eudaemon.net>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:51 -0700
X-Google-Sender-Auth: sfl8B4R0x-V8tL24I7hWkUxlSYM
Message-ID: <CABuGu1qzN-+Aa5ZtdPxBumxEduJtK50Xcj0+O9Q5Z5Q_rNggTQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
To: dmarc <dmarc@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1143c50e2bfb3505328029c8"
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/5758BPMtl-J4cbxc4vw2uvRcEEE>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] phase 1 is done
X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" <dmarc.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dmarc>, <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dmarc/>
List-Post: <mailto:dmarc@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc>, <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 17:21:58 -0000

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:54 AM, Tim Draegen <tim@eudaemon.net> wrote:

> The WG will now move ahead to phase 2:
>
>   https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/dmarc/trac/wiki/MilestoneTwoWiki
>
> When discussing methods and techniques that address an interoperability
> issue, please explicitly reference the issue from the
> draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability draft.  This will allow for easier
> tracking of issues & proposed fixes by volunteers a lot easier.
>

I would like to officially propose, and ask for the WG's support of
adopting https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-andersen-arc/ and the
corresponding, but separate usage recommendations
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jones-arc-usage/ as standards-track
documents within the WG to help mitigate the interoperability problems that
were cataloged.

Specifically, in draft -09 of the interop document, I had cited ARC in
section 4.2 as an instance of a "[m]echanism[s] to extend
Authentication-Results [RFC7601] to multiple hops. . ." (
https://trac.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-09#section-4.2)
but subsequently abstracted that "work in progress" out of the document to
honor our milestone framework.

--Kurt Andersen