Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options
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On Wed 03/Nov/2021 04:04:38 +0100 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On November 3, 2021 2:09:04 AM UTC, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >>It appears that Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> said: >> >>> 4. Common parent domain not marked PSD. We could add a new tag to the DMARC >>> records for PSDs to indicate it's a PSD, so it's record shouldn't be used for >>> alignment. Getting this added to the literal handful of PSD records that >>> exist and specifying it should be used going forward is doable. To implement >>> this approach should produce identical (modulo PSL errors and omissions) >>> results to the RFC 7489 approach. It seems like we've decided to trust that >>> ICANN and ccTLD operators will effectively manage publication of PSL records >>> for policy discovery, so this leverages that trust to simplify alignment while >>> maintaining backward compatibility. >> >> This is a much better worked out version of my DNS tree climbing proposal. I like it too. >> >> PS: Just out of nosiness, what PSD records exist now? > > Thanks. As far as I know, .gov, .mil, .gov.uk, and .police.uk. Hm... but PSDs don't seem to gain any extras by letting receivers know they're a PSD, do they? For a similar extension, subdomains could indicate their Organizational Domain. That's in case a subdomain wants to override its OD policy, for example to add themselves to the feedback reporting addresses. A subdomain can still be interested in letting receivers know what is the actual OD, for example if they want the receiver to find their BIMI certificate. This sounds similar to SPF's include or redirect keywords. The receiver would have to load yet another TXT record and somehow produce a merged policy. OTOH, a subdomain that wants to distinguish itself from its OD wouldn't publish any reference to the latter. They can already do this. jm2c Ale --
- [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Tobias Herkula
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] a detour into public suffix publ… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Tobias Herkula
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Tobias Herkula
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options tjw ietf
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options Scott Kitterman