Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options

Douglas Foster <dougfoster.emailstandards@gmail.com> Sat, 06 November 2021 13:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational Alignment Options
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Back to Scott's original comment and Ale's skepticism:

Is it feasible that DNS flags could provide a less-bad replacement for the
PSL, or will it be just a different and maybe even less-reliable mess?
If most are not under contract, how can we hope to get cooperation?
Does the leadership or designated members of this group have a way to
evaluate that question?


On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 2:23 PM John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> It appears that Tobias Herkula  <tobias.herkula@1und1.de> said:
> >I'm aware of that, to be more explicit about my meaning. At least I
> currently believe (I don't know) that there is a difference in buying
> >the domain "mydomain.example" under the assumption that .example is a
> gTLD, sTLD or ccTLD in comparison of buying a domain from ME, like
> >"harharhar.mydomain.example".
>
> If you buy mydomain.broker.aero or mydomain.castle.museum or
> mydomain.smith.name or mydomain.cpa.pro, you are buying it directly
> from the ICANN contracted registry via a registrar so you are in the
> same position as if you buy mydomain.org.  If you buy mydomain.us.com
> you are buying it from an ICANN contracted registry, but they don't
> happen to have a contract about that 2LD.
>
> The public part of the PSL also has thousands of 2nd and 3rd level ccTLD
> entries
> where you get whatever you get from the ccTLD, none of which have
> meaningful ICANN contracts.  And as I said, the PSL is missing
> a lot of 2LDs sold direct by the TLD registries.  It is a mess and
> it does not claim to be authoritative.
>
> R's,
> John
>
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