[dmarc-ietf] Re: Evaluating consensus on the idea of making ARC "Historic"

Douglas Foster <dougfoster.emailstandards@gmail.com> Mon, 06 July 2026 10:43 UTC

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2026 06:42:23 -0400
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Agree with Seth.
DKIM2 success does not require expunging ARC.
Historic can wait.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2026, 11:16 AM Seth Blank <seth@sethblank.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 7:29 AM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you DO NOT think we should make ARC "Historic", please reply to
>> this message and tell us, *as concisely as you can* why you think we
>> should not do that.
>>
>
> I think we should NOT make ARC historic, yet.
>
> 1. ARC is actively deployed and utilized
> 2. No interoperable replacement is yet published
>
> I acknowledge ARC is not as useful as we'd hoped, and we've learned a good
> deal which has been woven into DKIM2. I do not at all object to
> ultimately making the move to historic.
>
> I simply believe DKIM2 should obsolete / make ARC historic when it
> publishes, so there's a clear upgrade path. i.e. when we have a new
> protocol that works and interoperates, that's the culmination of the
> experiment and when the bit flips.
>
> I also acknowledge I haven't been in the thick of discussions lately, and
> my awareness of current state might be out of date. So I expect to be in
> the rough on this ;-)
>
> Seth, participatin'
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