Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft
"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Sun, 02 August 2020 21:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:51 AM John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > >Looking at the steps required to carry out the proposed unmunging, "a lot > easier" doesn't seem to be an accurate measurement. > > In python it's about two lines since there are well debugged libraries > to handle MIME. Same in most other languages. > I agree, the code to do this is easy and well tested, and it works so long as the MLM is doing the mutation in exactly the same way the verifier will undo it. The concern comes down to two different MIME library implementers disagreeing on their choices for where an extra newline might be helpful, for example. -MSK
- [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Apropos of the de-munging draft Alessandro Vesely