Re: [DMM] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-04: (with DISCUSS)

"Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Sat, 11 February 2017 09:01 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03359129502 for <dmm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 01:01:00 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.902
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OL1gwykksNTP for <dmm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 01:00:57 -0800 (PST)
Received: from kuehlewind.net (kuehlewind.net [83.169.45.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F3611296F6 for <dmm@ietf.org>; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 01:00:56 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 18035 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2017 10:00:54 +0100
Received: from p5dec284d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO ?192.168.178.33?) (93.236.40.77) by kuehlewind.net with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 11 Feb 2017 10:00:54 +0100
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\))
From: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
In-Reply-To: <D8A9FEC1-6A1D-4AA8-BF42-E6FD3157BB70@ericsson.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:00:54 +0100
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <C2C2AFB9-99D5-459A-AAF5-1613ABAF4716@kuehlewind.net>
References: <148674648728.29247.8373715746303934157.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <D8A9FEC1-6A1D-4AA8-BF42-E6FD3157BB70@ericsson.com>
To: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/YhoVRTjnwC1KSAS2qKmwlHfrUjE>
Cc: "max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com" <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>, "draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids@ietf.org>, "dmm-chairs@ietf.org" <dmm-chairs@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "dmm@ietf.org" <dmm@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [DMM] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-04: (with DISCUSS)
X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group <dmm.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dmm>, <mailto:dmm-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dmm/>
List-Post: <mailto:dmm@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dmm-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm>, <mailto:dmm-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 09:01:00 -0000

Hi Suresh,

sounds all good! I’m happy to quickly resolve my discuss if the authors agree!

Mirja


> Am 11.02.2017 um 05:05 schrieb Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>:
> 
> HI Mirja,
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-04: Discuss
>> 
>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>> 
>> 
>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>> 
>> 
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> DISCUSS:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I would realy like to see the following changes in the security
>> considerations section:
>> OLD
>> "If used in the MNID extension as defined in this
>>  document, the packet including the MNID extension should be
>> encrypted
>>  so that personal information or trackable identifiers would not be
>>  inadvertently disclosed to passive observers."
>> NEW
>> "If used in the MNID extension as defined in this
>>  document, the packet including the MNID extension SHOULD be
>> encrypted
>>  so that personal information or trackable identifiers would not be
>>  inadvertently disclosed to passive observers.”
> 
> Is this just for changing the "should" to upper case? I think that makes sense.
> 
>> Or even better make it a MUST? Is there a reason for only having a
>> SHOULD?
> 
> Authors, any specific reason for this to be a SHOULD?
> 
>> 
>> as well as the following change:
>> OLD
>> "Moreover, MNIDs containing sensitive identifiers might only be used
>>  for signaling during initial network entry. "
>> NEW
>> "Moreover, MNIDs containing sensitive identifiers MUST only be used
>>  for signaling during initial network entry and MUST NOT be leaked to
>>  other networks.”
> 
> The statement in OLD: is just a statement of fact that in some networks use temporary identifiers for reattachment and they use long term (and hence sensitive) identifiers only at initial attach. I don’t think it makes sense to change this to 2119 language.
> 
> Thanks
> Suresh
>