Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile User Plane Evolution" - draft-zzhang-dmm-mup-evolution-06
Satoru Matsushima <satoru.matsushima@gmail.com> Sat, 21 October 2023 04:22 UTC
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From: Satoru Matsushima <satoru.matsushima@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:21:47 +0900
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Subject: Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile User Plane Evolution" - draft-zzhang-dmm-mup-evolution-06
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Katsuhiro, Jeffrey, please clarify what the control plane means here. E.g., (1) control plane in mobility management (MM) and session management (SM) in 5G architecture, (2) signaling protocols for N1/2 and N4, or (3) control plane for IP routing, BGP, etc., Cheers, --satoru On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 5:28 AM Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang= 40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi Katsuhiro, > > > > Please note that this document does not conflict with draft-mhkk. > > > > Regarding “Control plane convergence should indeed play a pivotal role”, I > observe that draft-mhkk is still based on the separate N2/N4 signaling in > case of 5G, even though the N4 is translated to BGP. > > > > In fact, while the AN + UPF integration will benefit from integrated > signaling in 6G, in 5G the integration can be done as an implementation > choice w/o integrating N2/N4, and it can even use BGP signaling (that was > defined for draft-mhkk) – as in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zzhang-dmm-anup5g-signaling/. > > > > Thanks. > Jeffrey > > > > Juniper Business Use Only > > *From:* dmm <dmm-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Horiba, Katsuhiro > *Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2023 10:03 AM > *To:* dmm@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile User Plane > Evolution" - draft-zzhang-dmm-mup-evolution-06 > > > > *[External Email. Be cautious of content]* > > > > Hello, > > > ANUP solely addresses user plane convergence and tries to liaise with > 3GPP, > > but I'm afraid this is a half-baked attempt. > > I concur with this observation, as a co-author of > draft-mhkk-dmm-srv6mup-architecture-05. > > Control plane convergence should indeed play a pivotal role in realizing > the original DMM concept, > > as the control plane information serves as the foundation for route > advertisements from (R)AN. > > The genuine potential of ANUP can be fully realized when both user and > control plane convergence are achieved. > > Is there anyone willing to take the lead in driving control plane > convergence for (R)AN within the IETF? > > Best Regards, > Katsuhiro Horiba > _______________________________________________ > dmm mailing list > dmm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm >
- [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile User P… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
- Re: [DMM] [E] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobil… Jalil, Luay
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Tianji Jiang
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Miya Kohno
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… David Lake
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Horiba, Katsuhiro
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Shay Zadok
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Horiba, Katsuhiro
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Sandeep Bishnoi (Nokia)
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Jakub Horn (jakuhorn)
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Keyur Patel
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Z.W. Yan
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Bill Gage
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Jakub Horn (jakuhorn)
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Yuya KAWAKAMI
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Kaippallimalil John
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [DMM] DMM WG Adoption Poll (2) for "Mobile Us… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)