[dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small, focused groups
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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 13:23:54 -0400
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Subject: [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small, focused groups
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2025, Wes Hardaker wrote: > One clarifying question: If the primary point of a split in half is to > increase the speed of some of the drafts, how would the split > functionally accomplish this if the agenda time between the two groups > remained the same? Like I said in my previous email, having a more strict "issue discussion" process and less "presenting new ideas" time should free up time I think. I also believe multiple lists will reduce the distractions of the "one big list with all DNS topics" that kinda always seem to burn / drown out other threads. > Or do you envision dnsop maintaining the current > two-session reservations and adding a third for your dev group? Either could be possible depending on the workload after documents would get (re)assigned to either group. > Or do > you think the split itself will increase the time for some drafts > because the weighting will not be 50/50 and, if so, then one group will > end up being slower to get things done right while the other (the > operational side) becomes faster? I would expect dnsop to become faster. Whether or when they could go back to one session instead of two, I couldn't predict at this point. > TL;DR: I understand the rational for the split but not how it itself > would achieve the goals. I think its more the contained focus on the mailinglists that would create this. Recent example is the subtag discussion which would be fine for the "devel" group, but wouldn't take time and focus on out of dnsop. But I also think it does need to go hand in hand with chairs steering concrete draft open issues per email thread, and keep slow feeding this into dnsop. Paul
- [dns-at-ietf] Discussion: big groups vs small, fo… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Ted Lemon
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eliot Lear
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eliot Lear
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eliot Lear
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Jim Reid
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Paul Wouters
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Paul Wouters
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Paul Ebersman
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Petr Špaček
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Petr Špaček
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… kehan yao
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Ondřej Surý
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Peter Thomassen
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Peter Thomassen
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Petr Špaček
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Jim Mozley