[dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small, focused groups
Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Thu, 06 November 2025 12:03 UTC
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Petr Špaček <pspacek@isc.org> writes: Thanks Petr, A quick follow on: > Can we try do BCPs @ DNS-OARC for couple years and see how it goes? [disclaimer: I'm a big fan of DNS-OARC generally, but the questions below are really how to make this potentially work if this is the direction chosen] 1. DNS-OARC doesn't yet have a publication stream at all, aside from a blog, which can certainly be remedied by creating one. Certainly it fits within their current description under the "Information Sharing" category. My recollection is that occasionally (very rare) do have "membership only" meeting slot; how would those potentially affect a published BCP if they were related as that differs from the always-open model of the IETF? 2. If DNS BCPs were to be written at DNS-OARC, then we may have to reference external publications from our IETF streams at times. This already happens so seems possible. But do you foresee any complications, especially if we have cases of timing dependencies, or, worse, circular dependencies that are handled right now through internal clustering? 3. How do we ensure enough IETF folk are participating in the external body (which is membership driven though has open lists)? Or do you feel that operators are the ones to write BCP and thus protocol experts aren't as needed? (that wasn't intend to be as leading of a question as it came out, but I'll leave it anyway) 4. How do we ensure DNS-OARC publications are widely recognized as authoritative? This is really a problem for all new bodies to widely publicize their intent to create new authoritative streams, and isn't really specific to OARC. [5. I actually had one more but now I've forgotten it...] -- Wes Hardaker Google
- [dns-at-ietf] Discussion: big groups vs small, fo… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Ted Lemon
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eliot Lear
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eliot Lear
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eliot Lear
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Jim Reid
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Paul Wouters
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Paul Wouters
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Paul Ebersman
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Petr Špaček
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Petr Špaček
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… kehan yao
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Wes Hardaker
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Ondřej Surý
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Peter Thomassen
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Peter Thomassen
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Petr Špaček
- [dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small… Jim Mozley