[dns-at-ietf] Re: Discussion: big groups vs small, focused groups

[Petr Špaček <[e-mail]>]

On 06. 11. 25 11:02, Peter Thomassen wrote:
> Core to most of my conclusions is that overlap between DNSOP and any 
> split-off group (unless it's very focused like DCONN) will draw a large 
> fraction of the same people, just like we have big overlap with DNS 
> OARC. With this in mind:
> 
> On 11/6/25 05:40, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> dnsop is overwhelmed with new ideas and I think it also suffers from 
>> burnout. It is hard to progress on drafts without feedback and the 
>> amount of work is not proportional to the number of people actually 
>> reviewing and commenting on these documents.
> 
> The amount of work is not reduced when distributed across a number of 
> groups with largely the same people attending.

I this this is incorrect/imprecise assumption.

At least in dnsop I can see sizeable group of people - namely software 
implementers - who do not really contribute to things which are related 
to 'use' of DNS protocol. Say new RR types (trivial), use of RR types 
(domain control validation), or data management (DS automation and 
everything around). These are things which happen 'outside' the 
protocol, or rather 'use' DNS protocol itself but do not affect what 
auth and/or resolver do, and thus is is not a concern for implementers.

Similarly I don't think people interested in say WALLER RR are 
necessarily interested in, I don't know, delegation-revalidation draft 
or DELEG.

For this very reason I think it makes sense to split into two groups as 
proposed elsewhere.

> I am really skeptical whether expectations w.r.t. individual load will 
> be fulfilled.
> 
> Work load is reduced by not following or reviewing certain drafts. Maybe 
> we should remind people of that. Maybe we should make it easier to not 
> follow drafts, by asking folks to prepend subjects with draft names, so 
> it's easy to spot what's interesting. Maybe we should create sub- 
> mailinglists for adopted drafts *where all DNSOP participants are 
> automatically subscribed, but you can unsubscribe if you don't care 
> about that draft*. Maybe ...


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Petr Špaček