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Re: [dns-privacy] DoH vs DoT at IMC 2019

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Thu, 12 September 2019 05:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] DoH vs DoT at IMC 2019
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On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:53 AM Timm Boettger <timm.boettger@qmul.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Rob Sayre has pointed me to this thread. I am an author of the linked
> paper..
>
> He has pointed out some confusing and outdated information in the paper,
> that I would like to clarify...
>

Let me further clarify: I thought these were minor corrections, and I
didn't want these small flaws to undermine a great point the paper made in
its Section 3:

"Implementing out-of-order delivery via TLS is akin to (re-)implementing
the stream multiplexing part of SCTP, QUIC or HTTP/2.0."

thanks,
Rob

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