Re: [dns-privacy] Joel Jaeggli's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-edns0-padding-02: (with DISCUSS)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 29 February 2016 20:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Joel Jaeggli's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-edns0-padding-02: (with DISCUSS)
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On 29/02/16 19:55, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
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> This is just something I want to discuss, it's not an objection...
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> At this point we say:
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>    Implementations therefore
>    SHOULD avoid using this option if the DNS transport is not encrypted.
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> If you did allow this on unencrypted dns transport this seems like it
> serves as a utility function for  DNS amplification.
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> Wouldn't it be better to say MUST NOT?
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> e.g. this is exclusively for use with TLS / DTLS supporting  sessions?

If you're running your DNS over IPsec or an SSLVPN
then using this might also be ok. So while a "MUST NOT
use in clear" does seem like it might be correct, that's
not the same as "MUST NOT except if using (D)TLS"

S.

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