Re: DNS vs. non-DNS Data (was Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-sig-00.txt))
"Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com> Sat, 07 April 2001 05:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: DNS vs. non-DNS Data (was Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-sig-00.txt))
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> > in general, we discourage storing non-dns data in the dns. > > What is the definition of "DNS data", actually? Actually, it's probably a good idea to develop a concept consensus. My definition is that the DNS is a lookup service similar to ARP. It just happens to be distributed across a collection of interconnected partitions in a hierarchical structure -- and there's a bunch of referral stuff to make sure queries are sent to the right place -- but in the end devices just issue targetted lookups for named resources and they expect an unambiguous and consistent answer. In that model, www.ehsco.com., mail.daimlerchrysler.com and ops.ietf.org are all peer entries in a massive *FLAT* database (they happen to be stored in separate partitions represented by a namespace but the global database itself is flat). Stuff that belongs in DNS is stuff that benefits from being used in a non-authenticated, unambiguous, lightweight lookup service which is backed by a global hierarchy of independent partitions. Stuff that doesn't belong is anything that requires authentication, is ambiguous, can be served by a standalone lookup, or consumes more valuable resources than it provides. MX RRs work okay in that model. SRV RRs work okay (if they are picked up and used to refer to richer or low-commodity-value services). Application configuration does not belong (local only). User data does not belong (requires authentication). or was your question rhetorical -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/ to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body.
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Ted Lindgreen
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Olaf Kolkman
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Roy Arends
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Miek Gieben
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Edward Lewis
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Edward Lewis
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Edward Lewis
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… John Gilmore
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Olaf Kolkman
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Brian Wellington
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Ted Lindgreen
- Re: DNS vs. non-DNS Data (was Re: Signature at pa… Kevin Darcy
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Ted Lindgreen
- Re: DNS vs. non-DNS Data (was Re: Signature at pa… Eric A. Hall
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Dan Massey
- DNS vs. non-DNS Data (was Re: Signature at parent… Kevin Darcy
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Randy Bush
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Ted Lindgreen
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Peter Koch
- Re: DNS vs. non-DNS Data (was Re: Signature at pa… Eric A. Hall
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Brian Wellington
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Edward Lewis
- Re: Signature at parent (draft-ietf-dnsop-parent-… Edward Lewis