Re: [dnsext] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4343 (5112)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 20 September 2017 18:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnsext] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4343 (5112)
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I marked it as "Hold for update" -- next time someone edits this RFC
it might make sense to make it clearer.

Sorry, I thought the errata tool would have sent the mail update.

W

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com> wrote:
> John and I agree
> please reject this errata
>
> Olafur
>
>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 6:15 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would reject this or at most mark it as hold for update.  The word
>> "should" in lower case appears in two other places where it's not used
>> in the 2119 sense, and I think this one is not intended to be the 2119
>> sense either.  The sentence in question is describing the historical
>> situation, and the following capital MUSTs tell you what to do.
>>
>> Having said that, if we ever revisit this document, it would benefit
>> from rewording to make it clearer when it is telling you what to do
>> and when it's just giving background.
>>
>> R's,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> In article <20170912194513.752D0B8114C@rfc-editor.org> you write:
>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4343,
>>> "Domain Name System (DNS) Case Insensitivity Clarification".
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> You may review the report below and at:
>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5112
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> Type: Editorial
>>> Reported by: Change "should" to must in section 3.(no subsection) <rich.tom@alticeusa.com>
>>>
>>> Section: 3
>>>
>>> Original Text
>>> -------------
>>> comparisons on name lookup for DNS queries should be case insensitive
>>>
>>> Corrected Text
>>> --------------
>>> comparisons on name lookup for DNS queries must be case insensitive
>>>
>>> Notes
>>> -----
>>> Some authoritative DNS servers and/or mitigation devices/software silently drop queries that have
>>> uppercase letters in them.  Furthermore, the clarification of the case insensitive comparison in the
>>> following two sentences after that particular sentence use the term MUST.  I suspect some readers of the
>>> RFC are reading the word "should" and aren't reading the rest of the paragraph.
>>>
>>> Instructions:
>>> -------------
>>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
>>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party
>>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> RFC4343 (draft-ietf-dnsext-insensitive-06)
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> Title               : Domain Name System (DNS) Case Insensitivity Clarification
>>> Publication Date    : January 2006
>>> Author(s)           : D. Eastlake 3rd
>>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>>> Source              : DNS Extensions
>>> Area                : Internet
>>> Stream              : IETF
>>> Verifying Party     : IESG
>>>
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