Re: [DNSOP] Why new code/old keys? Re: [Ext] Re: sentinel and timing?

Mukund Sivaraman <muks@isc.org> Thu, 08 February 2018 18:17 UTC

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:47:34 +0530
From: Mukund Sivaraman <muks@isc.org>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Why new code/old keys? Re: [Ext] Re: sentinel and timing?
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On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 10:06:02AM -0800, Paul Vixie wrote:
> > At the very least, a "trusted-keys for the root KSK considered
> > harmful" syslog message would be a hopefully easy and
> > non-controversial first step in the right direction.
> 
> i think that's entirely reasonable, and based on BIND9's syslogging when its
> hints file is seen to be out of date (doesn't match priming), i think
> there's sufficient precedent. but i do think we ought to be realistic as to
> whether the 99%'ers will ever read their syslog files.

I would've sworn this was already done. It looks like it was discussed
on ticket #43670 and then the ticket was silently closed. Re-opening.

		Mukund