[DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delegating to other namespaces in the DNS
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 17 June 2025 16:45 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delegating to other namespaces in the DNS
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This looks good. I think that this is better than AS112—we'll do some A/AAAA queries to root, but presumably these will be negative cached so it won't be a huge load? I like that this provides a way to establish a trust anchor for internal domains, although I haven't reasoned through whether this would currently work with existing validators. If this really is better, then we should consider also updating RFC6303, RFC8375 and RFC9665, and also adding a similar delegation for .local. RFC6762 doesn't address this at all. > On 17 Jun 2025, at 17:44, Joe Abley <jabley=40strandkip.nl@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Warren, Wes and I put our respective heads together in Prague and came up with this: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jabley-dnsop-zone-cut-to-nowhere/ > > This is some general advice for how to delegate a domain to another namespace. > > This document proposes a standard mechanism that is potentially applicable, we think, to the .INTERNAL situation that was discussed at some length a while ago (and in a couple of messages today) but also includes other examples of when it could and should not be used. > > This document doesn't direct the IANA to do anything, to avoid the policy conversation that implies, but if it achieved consensus it would provide a standard mechanism that IANA could reasonably choose to use. > > <clickbait type="wes/science">Wes was still madly typing into a half-closed laptop as I left to board a flight and the document only contains references to his science to follow, not the actual science. If this sounds intriguing, review the document to learn more. </clickbait> > > <clickbait type="warren/kittens">There are kittens.</clickbait> > > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list -- dnsop@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dnsop-leave@ietf.org
- [DNSOP] on the more general problem of delegating… Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] on the more general problem of … Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] on the more general problem of … John Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] on the more general problem of … Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] on the more general problem of … Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] on the more general problem of … Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] on the more general problem of … Libor Peltan
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP[Ext] on the more general proble… Wes Hardaker
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Andrew McConachie
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Andrew McConachie
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Peter Thomassen
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Peter van Dijk
- [DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delega… Peter van Dijk