[DNSOP] Re: Andy Newton's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-ds-automation-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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Re-, 

Works for me, Andy. Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Andy Newton <andy@hxr.us>
> Envoyé : mercredi 20 mai 2026 13:11
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>;
> The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc : dnsop-chairs@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dnsop-ds-
> automation@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [DNSOP] Andy Newton's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-ds-
> automation-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> 
> 
> On 20-05-2026 12:47 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> > Hi Andy, all,
> >
> > I trust the authors will engage soon.
> >
> > Rather than repeating the exception/implication of not following
> a SHOULD for these items, the document factorizes that given that
> the same reasoning applies:
> >
> > CURRENT:
> >     The recommendations optimize interoperability and safety.
> In certain
> >     cases, local policy may take precedence, such as when a
> registry is
> >     subjected to national cryptographic policy requirements or
> performs
> >     out-of-band verification of DS changes with a human for
> high-stake
> >     domains.  However, not following any requirements designated
> with the
> >     "SHOULD" key word will generally lead to undesirable effects
> of
> >     ambiguity and interoperability issues.  When implementing
> these
> >     recommendations, operators have to carefully weigh whether
> any
> >     particular deviation is justified in their particular
> context.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> I appreciate the difficulty with balancing the need to allow local
> policy while offering technical guidance.
> 
> Can the above be strengthened? Such as the last sentence:
> 
>      When implementing these recommendations, operators MUST
> mitigate issues arising from
>      any particular deviation.
> 
> -andy
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