Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-02.txt
Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Tue, 03 March 2015 11:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-02.txt
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Mar 2015, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > Subject: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: > > draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-02.txt > > > To those working on the alt-tld draft and other interested parties, this > > draft was recently revised today. I am sure there are people on this list > > who have strong opinions on this matter. > > What was the motivation for removing .lan from the list? > > I can see where .localdomain and .domain indeed won't cause any > problems, but I think .lan is still a pretty common one in use. It is a common fake TLD used by home gateways for their internal networks. I collected a list of distinct client host names from my mail servers (MX and message submission servers) which did not match the DNS. A lot of these will be internal names. I counted the most popular TLDs. .lan is the 4th most popular fake TLD, after .local (mDNS), .home (BT Home Hubs) and .localdomain (trad.). 135 internal 137 cn 143 ch 146 lan 155 hu 163 pt 164 za 169 localdomain 178 tw 188 ua 197 uy 205 ca 218 eu 245 gr 253 ar 279 nl 281 cl 297 au 300 es 312 jp 356 fr 525 edu 569 home 768 pl 796 local 819 ru 923 it 1071 de 1099 org 1408 br 1707 info 1814 biz 2823 uk 3582 net 3729 in 11019 com If I only look at my MXs the list is quite different: 107 internal 107 se 124 id 124 th 134 cz 137 cn 143 ch 155 hu 158 localdomain 163 pt 164 za 178 tw 188 ua 197 uy 205 ca 218 eu 245 gr 253 ar 278 nl 281 cl 297 au 300 es 312 jp 351 fr 480 local 511 edu 768 pl 819 ru 916 it 1071 de 1075 org 1408 br 1707 info 1814 biz 2080 uk 3569 net 3729 in 10982 com (It seems spammers have learned not to use home gateway fake TLDs...) For message submission I see the following: 4 root 4 sg 6 fr 6 site 8 box 8 it 9 localdomain 11 net 14 edu 14 localnet 16 org 27 internal 44 com 125 lan 306 local 382 uk 495 home Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ Portland, Plymouth, North Biscay: Westerly veering northwesterly 5 to 7. Moderate or rough in Portland and northeast Plymouth, otherwise rough or very rough. Squally showers. Good, occasionally poor.
- [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-r… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additio… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-r… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-r… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-r… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-r… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-r… John Levine