Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-wessels-edns-key-tag-00

"Wessels, Duane" <dwessels@verisign.com> Mon, 02 November 2015 05:37 UTC

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From: "Wessels, Duane" <dwessels@verisign.com>
To: 神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-wessels-edns-key-tag-00
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> On Nov 2, 2015, at 1:23 PM, 神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp> wrote:
> 
> I've read draft-wessels-edns-key-tag-00.  I think it's generally well
> written.  I have a few small comments.

Thank you for the review.

> 
> - Sections 5.2.1
> 
>   When the recursive server
>   receives a query with the option set, the recursive server SHOULD set
>   the edns-key-tag list for any outgoing iterative queries for that
>   resolution chain to a union of the stub client's Key Tag(s) and the
>   validating recursive resolver's Key Tag(s).
> 
> What if the recursive server receives the same query from multiple
> clients with different key tags and tries to unify the multiple
> original queries (some recursive server implementations do this
> unification)?  Is it expected to include a union of all these key
> tags?  What if the result of this makes the query too big (even if
> it's quite unlikely to happen in practice)?


That is an interesting point.  I think the implementation should choose
its own limit for how many tag values to send in one query.  If we need
to make a recommendation for the limit I would recommend 10.

  

> 
> Same questions apply to Section 5.2.2.
> 
> - Regarding security considerations, should we worry about an attack
>  where the attacker pretends to a massive number of different clients
>  sending an old key tag, intending to prevent or delay the migration
>  to a new key?

I think this possibility should be documented, although there may be
no good solution.  The zone operator who collects and analyzes edns-key-tag
values should be aware of this potential attack and take reasonable measures
to differentiate "real" queries from "attack" queries.

DW