Re: [DNSOP] Caching of negative zone (non-authoritative) responses

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 08 July 2019 16:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Caching of negative zone (non-authoritative) responses
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On Jul 8, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Michael J. Sheldon <msheldon@godaddy.com> wrote:
> If a record is requested from an authoritative server, where the zone does not exist, generally the response is REFUSED, but *this is not cached* by the requesting server. This results in a nearly continuous stream of retries, which continue to result in the same response. Our authoritative servers see no less than 15%, and sometimes as much as 25% of our worldwide traffic as these non-authoritative responses.

A zone that doesn’t exist is actually a name that doesn’t exist under the enclosing zone that does exist, which may be the root zone.  Are you saying that if I look up a name that is a subdomain of a name that doesn’t exist, that is handled differently than a name that is a subdomain of a name that is a zone, or something different?   I’m not disputing the observed behavior—I’m just not clear on what that is.

To put it another way, if you get a REFUSED from a server, that server is not authoritative for the name that you requested.   Is the situation that you have a delegation from one server to another where the other is not actually configured to be authoritative for the delegated zone?   If so, that is indeed an interesting conundrum.