Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation

Nick Johnson <nick@ethereum.org> Fri, 14 June 2019 03:42 UTC

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From: Nick Johnson <nick@ethereum.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:41:43 +1200
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Verifying TLD operator authorisation
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 3:02 PM Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> wrote:

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> On 13 Jun 2019, at 23:56, Nick Johnson <nick@ethereum.org> wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:51 PM Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> wrote:
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>> On 13 Jun 2019, at 23:18, Nick Johnson <
>> nick=40ethereum.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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>> I'm working on a system that needs to authenticate a TLD owner/operator
>> in order to take specific actions. We had intended to handle this by
>> requiring them to publish a token in a TXT record under a subdomain of
>> nic.tld, but it's been brought to our attention that we can't rely on
>> nic.tld being owned by the TLD operators - this is only a reserved domain
>> on ICANN new-gTLDs, not on ccTLDs or older gTLDs.
>>
>> An alternative is to require a message signed by the TLD's DNSSEC zone
>> signing key, but I'm uncertain whether it's practical for TLD operators to
>> sign arbitrary messages using their keys.
>>
>> Are there domains that are globally reserved for the operator across all
>> TLDs? If not, does anyone have any recommendations on an alternative
>> authorisation or authentication mechanism?
>>
>>
>> All TLDs have admin and tech contacts published at
>> https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/[TLD].html (or port-43 WHOIS if you
>> prefer) ; send e-mail to both of them, both need to be clicked to confirm
>> TLD ownership.
>> After that, use whatever mutual authentication system you feel like
>> using.
>>
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> That would work, but we'd rather use a mechanism that can be publicly
> verified by anyone.
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>
> Like sending an e-mail to a mailman list archive after the process is
> completed ?
>

Email isn't terribly secure - a mailmain list doesn't prove the email
really existed, or was sent by the purported senders.

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> Rubens
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