Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-07

A design team to pick a label? Wow, just wow!

João

> On 23 Mar 2018, at 18:00, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:
> 
> i'm concerned about the age-old human protocol being employed here.
> 
> first one guy shouts bikeshed! (usually somebody who's been bikeshedding.)
> 
> nextly, some folks say "the details don't matter, only uniqueness."
> 
> then there's a bunch of back and forth about whether and which details matter.
> 
> then there's a lot of folks saying, "personally i would go with..." or "i prefer ..." or "my vote is for..."
> 
> then somebody inevitably says "this is taking too long, let's just pick something."
> 
> it's how ipv6 and dnssec were standardized, with sweepingly bad results that our great grandchildren will no doubt shake their heads about, in wonder.
> 
> i request a different protocol.
> 
> can the co-chairs convene a design team made up of people from each camp named above, and lock them in a room and shove pizza under the door until they have a proposal that can be accepted on its _merits_?
> 
> vixie
> 
> re:
> 
> Joao Damas wrote:
>> I am happy with whatever the wg agrees but let’s agree, otherwise time keeps sliding and the only label that is going to be accurate for the next generations will be “ksk-roll-that-never-was” ;)
>> 
>> Joao
>> 
>>> On 23 Mar 2018, at 16:13, Ondřej Surý<ondrej@isc.org>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also prefer #2
>>> 
>>> Personally, I would go with rzksk-sentinel because it’s shorter and more accurate, but #2 will make me happy.
>>> 
>>> Ondrej
>>> --
>>> Ondřej Surý — ISC
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Mar 2018, at 15:20, Wessels, Duane<dwessels@verisign.com>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 23, 2018, at 5:13 AM, Warren Kumari<warren@kumari.net>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear DNSOP,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please clearly express a preference for:
>>>>> 1: Keeping the current label -- kskroll-sentinel-is-ta-20326.example.com
>>>>> 2: Changing it to the new label -- root-key-sentinal-is-ta-20326.example.com
>>>>> 
>>>> I prefer #2.
>>>> 
>>>> DW
>>>> 
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