Re: [DNSOP] Localhost entries in zones

bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com Thu, 03 April 2008 20:49 UTC

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To: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz>
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 still do... both 

	localhost.
	1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.
	::1.ip6.arpa. #

# yeah yeah... shoot me

--bill




On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:48:45AM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote:
> At 12:19 +0200 4/3/08, Antoin Verschuren wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I may have missed this, but I'd like to hear the lists opinion about
> >this article:
> >http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2008/Jan/0270.html
> >that states that localhost entries in zones should be discouraged.
> 
> My problem with that doc is it says "uh, don't operate DNS servers if 
> you make mistakes."  Well, I am referring to the problem of 
> "localhost A 127.0.0.1" not having the trailing (FQDN) dot which 
> opens the doors to problems.
> 
> Here are two rules to combat this:
> 
> 1) Okay, no one forget the dot, OK?
> 2) Unless. you. put. dots. after. every. word. for. a. week., you. 
> are. prevented. from. ever. typing. named. .
> 
> >I know that localhost entries were encouraged in RFC 1537 but that one
> >is obsolted by RFC 1912 which doesn't say anything anymore about
> >localhost entries, so no encouragement nor disencouragement.
> >I think that if localhost entries in zones should be discouraged, it
> >should come from the consensus of this WG.
> 
> OTOH, I have in the past been religious about including 
> localhost(dot) in both the forward and reverse zones of my servers. 
> But I don't go to church anymore.  I forget why I dropped the 
> practice, I mean putting in the localhost(dot), not the church thing, 
> but I know I wasn't happy with it.
> 
> Thinking, thFrom dnsop-bounces@ietf.org  Thu Apr  3 13:49:02 2008
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 still do... both 

	localhost.
	1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.
	::1.ip6.arpa. #

# yeah yeah... shoot me

--bill




On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:48:45AM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote:
> At 12:19 +0200 4/3/08, Antoin Verschuren wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I may have missed this, but I'd like to hear the lists opinion about
> >this article:
> >http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2008/Jan/0270.html
> >that states that localhost entries in zones should be discouraged.
> 
> My problem with that doc is it says "uh, don't operate DNS servers if 
> you make mistakes."  Well, I am referring to the problem of 
> "localhost A 127.0.0.1" not having the trailing (FQDN) dot which 
> opens the doors to problems.
> 
> Here are two rules to combat this:
> 
> 1) Okay, no one forget the dot, OK?
> 2) Unless. you. put. dots. after. every. word. for. a. week., you. 
> are. prevented. from. ever. typing. named. .
> 
> >I know that localhost entries were encouraged in RFC 1537 but that one
> >is obsolted by RFC 1912 which doesn't say anything anymore about
> >localhost entries, so no encouragement nor disencouragement.
> >I think that if localhost entries in zones should be discouraged, it
> >should come from the consensus of this WG.
> 
> OTOH, I have in the past been religious about including 
> localhost(dot) in both the forward and reverse zones of my servers. 
> But I don't go to church anymore.  I forget why I dropped the 
> practice, I mean putting in the localhost(dot), not the church thing, 
> but I know I wasn't happy with it.
> 
> Thinking, inking, no, can't recall the reason now.  Maybe with time 
> and discussion I will.
> -- 
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thinking, no, can't recall the reason now.  Maybe with time 
> and discussion I will.
> -- 
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> Edward Lewis                                                +1-571-434-5468
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