[DNSOP] second call ... rough draft of the minutes (ietf 71)
Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz> Thu, 03 April 2008 15:11 UTC
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Aww, I didn't do *that* great of a job taking notes, did I? I mean, if you complain enough I won't be asked to do this again. At 13:36 -0400 3/26/08, Edward Lewis wrote: >Comments? > >DNSOP WG Minutes >IETF 71 @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US >March 11, 2008 > >1. WG Administration notes > >RFC 5138 "6to4 Reverse DNS" published >Draft "reflectors are evil" faces two DISCUSSes in IESG >Draft "default local zones" is in or past WG last call > >2. Charter Revision Proposal > >@Mic comments: > >On mention of benchmarking >Stephane B: isn't benchmarking the domain of another WG? >Ralph Bonica: (Area Director) says, talk with Al [NM]orton of BMWG > >On omission of specific DNS systems >General comment: group never had oversight role on any system, mentions >in the previous charter were for illustration >Andrew Sullivan: Proposed charter never mentions "operation of DNS." >Hum on adding something on "operation of DNS" - some support > >Milestones - need updating > >3. Discussions of active drafts > >Promises to review: > >Reverse Map Considerations: Olafur, Jaap, Liman, Olaf, Jinmei >AS112-ops and -attack: Andrew Sullivan, Brian Dickson, Jaap, >Stephane B, Mark A >Response Size: Matt Larson, David Blacka, Brian D, Olafur, Eric Nelson >DNSSEC trust anchor: Scott Rose, Olaf, John Dickinson, Sam, Matt (the guy >who won the hockey tickets), Joe G, David Blacka, Russ Mundy >Resolver priming - currently expired > >General comment (which was unclear to me the minute taker) >Brian Dickson: General operations of resolvers, is there any need for meta- >priming, bootstrap for DNS resolver configuration, should WG have default >config's for implementers? >From dnsop-bounces@ietf.org Thu Apr 3 08:11:38 2008 Return-Path: <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org> X-Original-To: dnsop-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dnsop-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB193A6CF2; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:11:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dnsop@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnsop@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12573A687D for <dnsop@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:11:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.148 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.148 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, BODY_ENHANCEMENT2=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 433cBt3cjfGd for <dnsop@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ogud.com (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADBF3A6C9B for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (ns.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.6]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m33FBVIU022610; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a06240805c41aa13e7604@[0.0.0.0]> In-Reply-To: <a06240801c4103852a3d7@[0.0.0.0]> References: <a06240801c4103852a3d7@[0.0.0.0]> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 11:00:42 -0400 To: dnsop@ietf.org From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 10.20.30.6 Cc: ed.lewis@neustar.biz Subject: [DNSOP] second call ... rough draft of the minutes (ietf 71) X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/pipermail/dnsop> List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dnsop-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dnsop-bounces@ietf.org Aww, I didn't do *that* great of a job taking notes, did I? I mean, if you complain enough I won't be asked to do this again. At 13:36 -0400 3/26/08, Edward Lewis wrote: >Comments? > >DNSOP WG Minutes >IETF 71 @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US >March 11, 2008 > >1. WG Administration notes > >RFC 5138 "6to4 Reverse DNS" published >Draft "reflectors are evil" faces two DISCUSSes in IESG >Draft "default local zones" is in or past WG last call > >2. Charter Revision Proposal > >@Mic comments: > >On mention of benchmarking >Stephane B: isn't benchmarking the domain of another WG? >Ralph Bonica: (Area Director) says, talk with Al [NM]orton of BMWG > >On omission of specific DNS systems >General comment: group never had oversight role on any system, mentions >in the previous charter were for illustration >Andrew Sullivan: Proposed charter never mentions "operation of DNS." >Hum on adding something on "operation of DNS" - some support > >Milestones - need updating > >3. Discussions of active drafts > >Promises to review: > >Reverse Map Considerations: Olafur, Jaap, Liman, Olaf, Jinmei >AS112-ops and -attack: Andrew Sullivan, Brian Dickson, Jaap, >Stephane B, Mark A >Response Size: Matt Larson, David Blacka, Brian D, Olafur, Eric Nelson >DNSSEC trust anchor: Scott Rose, Olaf, John Dickinson, Sam, Matt (the guy >who won the hockey tickets), Joe G, David Blacka, Russ Mundy >Resolver priming - currently expired > >General comment (which was unclear to me the minute taker) >Brian Dickson: General operations of resolvers, is there any need for meta- >priming, bootstrap for DNS resolver configuration, should WG have default >config's for implementers? > >Akira Kato - latest version of Response Size is -10 >Stephane B - version -10 is okay >About 5 have read the -10 version > >5 documents to go to staggered last calls > >Other Drafts > >Key Rollover State Terminology - Olafur G and Johan Ihren >-00 individual submission >draft-gudmundsson-life-of-dnskey-00.txt > >Unification of terminology needed > generated->published->used/active->retired->removed (and revoked) >8 or 9 state definitions >headed for informational track > >John Dickinson: what about signature state terms? >Answer: no, what do you want? > >Sam Weiler: is this a partial rewrite of the spec? >Chair: ? >Terms are not precise enough (now). >Sam: Not sure this document is a good starting point. > >Hum: adopt/use doc loud, do not use doc, low, use something else - silence >(Scribe's Note: I cannot detect silence too well, bad hearing and all) > >Design team current topic: Nameserver Control Protocol (presenter Jaap) > >4 IETF's ago - protocol for this going nowhere >2 IETF's ago - design team wish list >little happening now - unfinished, rough document >What to do - design team. Ideas but no commitment. > >Other WGs > >DNSEXT - Cookies proposal (message authentication) >v6ops - NAT PT >ENUM - EDNS 0 > >NAT-PT - rewrite DNS packets on the fly >Kurtis Lindquist: v6ops co-chair, new translation thru NAT-PT >Kim from Apple: DNS-ALG is not wanted >Kurtis Lindquist: requirements gathering is currently on-going >Ed Lewis: does this include "totd"? >Answer: yes >Mark A: detailed commentary about DNSSEC and totd > >ENUM - EDNS0 >Olafur Gudmundsson: DNSEXT is revising EDNS0 definition now > >Alex Mayerhofer - ENUM working group >ENUM services guide, new version. Covers service registration. Needs words >on DNS. > >Other WGs >Brian Dickson - Routing Research Group generating new RR types >Stephane B - 2nd Meeting on Friday morning, DNS-based mapping > >-- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 >NeuStar > >Never confuse activity with progress. Activity pays more. >_______________________________________________ >DNSOP mailing list >DNSOP@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Never confuse activity with progress. Activity pays more. _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop >Akira Kato - latest version of Response Size is -10 >Stephane B - version -10 is okay >About 5 have read the -10 version > >5 documents to go to staggered last calls > >Other Drafts > >Key Rollover State Terminology - Olafur G and Johan Ihren >-00 individual submission >draft-gudmundsson-life-of-dnskey-00.txt > >Unification of terminology needed > generated->published->used/active->retired->removed (and revoked) >8 or 9 state definitions >headed for informational track > >John Dickinson: what about signature state terms? >Answer: no, what do you want? > >Sam Weiler: is this a partial rewrite of the spec? >Chair: ? >Terms are not precise enough (now). >Sam: Not sure this document is a good starting point. > >Hum: adopt/use doc loud, do not use doc, low, use something else - silence >(Scribe's Note: I cannot detect silence too well, bad hearing and all) > >Design team current topic: Nameserver Control Protocol (presenter Jaap) > >4 IETF's ago - protocol for this going nowhere >2 IETF's ago - design team wish list >little happening now - unfinished, rough document >What to do - design team. Ideas but no commitment. > >Other WGs > >DNSEXT - Cookies proposal (message authentication) >v6ops - NAT PT >ENUM - EDNS 0 > >NAT-PT - rewrite DNS packets on the fly >Kurtis Lindquist: v6ops co-chair, new translation thru NAT-PT >Kim from Apple: DNS-ALG is not wanted >Kurtis Lindquist: requirements gathering is currently on-going >Ed Lewis: does this include "totd"? >Answer: yes >Mark A: detailed commentary about DNSSEC and totd > >ENUM - EDNS0 >Olafur Gudmundsson: DNSEXT is revising EDNS0 definition now > >Alex Mayerhofer - ENUM working group >ENUM services guide, new version. Covers service registration. Needs words >on DNS. > >Other WGs >Brian Dickson - Routing Research Group generating new RR types >Stephane B - 2nd Meeting on Friday morning, DNS-based mapping > >-- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 >NeuStar > >Never confuse activity with progress. Activity pays more. >_______________________________________________ >DNSOP mailing list >DNSOP@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Never confuse activity with progress. Activity pays more. _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
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