[DNSOP] rough draft of the minutes (ietf 71)

[Edward Lewis <[e-mail]>]

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DNSOP WG Minutes
IETF 71 @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
March 11, 2008

1. WG Administration notes

RFC 5138 "6to4 Reverse DNS" published
Draft "reflectors are evil" faces two DISCUSSes in IESG
Draft "default local zones" is in or past WG last call

2. Charter Revision Proposal

@Mic comments:

On mention of benchmarking
Stephane B: isn't benchmarking the domain of another WG?
Ralph Bonica: (Area Director) says, talk with Al [NM]orton of BMWG

On omission of specific DNS systems
General comment: group never had oversight role on any system, mentions
in the previous charter were for illustration
Andrew Sullivan: Proposed charter never mentions "operation of DNS."
Hum on adding something on "operation of DNS" - some support

Milestones - need updating

3. Discussions of active drafts

Promises to review:

Reverse Map Considerations: Olafur, Jaap, Liman, Olaf, Jinmei
AS112-ops and -attack: Andrew Sullivan, Brian Dickson, Jaap, Stephane B, Mark A
Response Size: Matt Larson, David Blacka, Brian D, Olafur, Eric Nelson
DNSSEC trust anchor: Scott Rose, Olaf, John Dickinson, Sam, Matt (the guy
who won the hockey tickets), Joe G, David Blacka, Russ Mundy
Resolver priming - currently expired

General comment (which was unclear to me the minute taker)
Brian Dickson: General operations of resolvers, is there any need for meta-
priming, bootstrap for DNS resolver configuration, should WG have default
config's for implementers?

Akira Kato - latest version of Response Size is -10
Stephane B - version -10 is okay
About 5 have read the -10 version

5 documents to go to staggered last calls

Other Drafts

Key Rollover State Terminology - Olafur G and Johan Ihren
-00 individual submission
draft-gudmundsson-life-of-dnskey-00.txt

Unification of terminology needed
  generated->published->used/active->retired->removed (and revoked)
8 or 9 state definitions
headed for informational track

John Dickinson: what about signature state terms?
Answer: no, what do you want?

Sam Weiler: is this a partial rewrite of the spec?
Chair: ?
Terms are not precise enough (now).
Sam: Not sure this document is a good starting point.

Hum: adopt/use doc loud, do not use doc, low, use something else - silence
(Scribe's Note: I cannot detect silence too well, bad hearing and all)

Design team current topic: Nameserver Control Protocol (presenter Jaap)

4 IETF's ago - protocol for this going nowhere
2 IETF's ago - design team wish list
little happening now - unfinished, rough document
What to do - design team.  Ideas but no commitment.

Other WGs

DNSEXT - Cookies proposal (message authentication)
v6ops - NAT PT
ENUM - EDNS 0

NAT-PT - rewrite DNS packets on the fly
Kurtis Lindquist: v6ops co-chair, new translation thru NAT-PT
Kim from Apple: DNS-ALG is not wanted
Kurtis Lindquist: requirements gathering is currently on-going
Ed Lewis: does this include "totd"?
Answer: yes
Mark A: detailed commentary about DNSSEC and totd

ENUM - EDNS0
Olafur Gudmundsson: DNSEXT is revising EDNS0 definition now

Alex Mayerhofer - ENUM working group
ENUM services guide, new version.  Covers service registration.  Needs words
on DNS.

Other WGs
Brian Dickson - Routing Research Group generating new RR types
Stephane B - 2nd Meeting on Friday morning, DNS-based mapping

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