Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-10 and AD

Geoff Huston <gih902@gmail.com> Tue, 03 April 2018 08:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-10 and AD
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> On 3 Apr 2018, at 5:38 pm, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> 
> AD is only set or potentially set in the response if DO or AD is set on the query.
> 
> The condition boils down to testing for AD or DO in the query because the answer needs to be secure and there can’t be a CNAME or DNAME pointing to it.  About the only way it to not have a AD would be for there to be a CNAME and the target be insecure based on the other conditions.
> 
> I would just remove the condition. 
> 

Thanks Mark. 

I had just posted a followup before seeing your response.

I’ll remove the condition then.


Geoff