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Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net> Wed, 11 March 2015 16:22 UTC

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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:22:20 -0400
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 07:12:55AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:
> > djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form.
> > 
> > olafur doesn't want to "do_ANY", under any conditions.
> > 
> > so i'm baffled by why you're offering this alternative?
> 
> Neither djb nor Olafur are automatically the consensus of this WG. None of us are.
> 

<mostly-ot>
	I've had trouble emailing djb about this and received bounces
from his mailer, so feel trustrated trying to have a conversation that includes
him at least.
</mostly-ot>

	This does seem to fall into the whole "undefined" category just
like many people feel that TCP is optional where my reading of 1035
4.2.2 defines how queries over TCP should be performed.

	At the most recent NANOG John Kristoff presented on the
TCP part: 

https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/nanog63-dnstrack-kristoff-dnstcp.pdf

	There is a gap, neither positive or negative in the behavior of
these things, which I'm sure will rage along for a bit re: ANY, TCP, etc...

	I'm working on a project right now that should collect some data
and help better study the behavior of systems.  once it's ready, I will share
more data.  If you are a researcher or PHD candidate interested in DNS,
please contact me off-list.

	- jared

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