Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld last call?
Klaus Frank <klaus.frank@posteo.de> Wed, 26 October 2022 17:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld last call?
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I don't quite understand what the controversial part with this is, but why not just copy RFC7686 (onion special use domain name) for .ALT? It's an established precedence and also doesn't look like a bad idea to just register the TLD with NXDOMAIN on the "normal" root dns servers? > Authoritative DNS Servers: Authoritative servers MUST respond to > queries for .onion with NXDOMAIN. On 26.10.2022 18:52, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > John Levine wrote on 2022-10-25 14:30: >> > ... >> >> ... Considering the vast amount of junk traffic that the roots >> get now, it's hard to imagine that .alt would add enough to care about. > > we don't and can't know that. in any case we should first do no harm. > > the DNS is capable of signaling that a given domain isn't operable in > the DNS, like delegating to localhost, DNAME'ing to AS112, assigning a > pseudo-random DS for which there is no corresponding DNSKEY, &etc. if > queries in DNS for names ending in .ALT are proof of misconfiguration, > then the result of those queries can be arbitrary, and should optimize > for the health of the DNS rather than the utility of the misconfigured. >
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- Re: [DNSOP] Possible alt-tld last call? Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Eliot Lear
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Martin Schanzenbach
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] no regitry for you, Possible al… Paul Vixie
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Paul Hoffman
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call? Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… Wessels, Duane
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… John R Levine
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… Klaus Frank
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… libor.peltan
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- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] root crud, Possible alt-tld las… John Levine
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