Re: [DNSOP] draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-00.txt

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Wed, 06 April 2016 17:33 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-00.txt
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I meant a form of signing, which would be a strong signal of
repudiation of the label as well as exclusion of other holders of the
label, so that it could be a first-class signal "not in the DNS" ->
look in another internet-name lookup mechanism.

Delegation via DNAME to the empty serve felt like a weaker form. It
conflates moving traffic off the root, with an authenticated denial
function.

I probably don't understand the protocol implications of things right
so may also be confused myself.

-G


On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:41:40PM -0300,
>  George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote
>  a message of 25 lines which said:
>
>> I see some utility in having DNSSEC apply over special use names,
>> because authenticated non-existence is a strong proof of intent, and
>> would make a 'not in this domainspace' switch have a robust basis.
>
> Well, the root is signed so, if the draft is implemented, the DNAMEs
> will be signed (the target zone, empty.as112.arpa, is not, for good
> reasons).
>
>> On that understanding, how would DNAME redirection work for
>> returning sigs over the NX?
>
> I'm not sure I understand. A DNAME is like any other record (see
> anything.sink.bortzmeyer.fr which is signed and redirects to the new
> AS112).
>
> Or do you mean a RFC 7535-bis, with "special" signatures for
> empty.as112.arpa?
>