Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-00.txt]
"J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr> Thu, 25 March 2004 17:31 UTC
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:08:53 +0100
To: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
From: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
Subject: Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-00.txt]
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Reply-To: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
Thank you for this. I just commented to help the reading. I think you fully addressed that. Except on one point, but I am not competent to seriously addres your question (see below)/ At 14:23 25/03/04, Pekka Savola wrote: >(btw, I clarified the applicability of this document by adding in the >introduction:) > > <t>The purpose of this document is to give information about >important issues and considerations related to DNS operations with >IPv6; it is not meant to be a normative specification or standard for >IPv6 DNS.</t> Thak you. >I was not sure whether you were objecting to the contents of this >section or not so I'm assuming you could be.. so.. > >I think all the main arguments have been fairly portrayed (in more >detail in other documents). If you believe otherwise, please raise a >specific objection. I do not object the content. As said above. But as a reader I wish to understand what is said to me one shot. >Please specify the exact paragraphs and issues where you're raising a >point, possibly giving some context, and let's see if we can flesh these >out. It's difficult if we don't understand each others' comments :-) I just commented the reading as a reader. I think you already met most of my outsiders remarks. BTW Thank you. >OK; I tried to fuel the thinking a bit: > > <t>A problem with defining the clean-up process is that it is >difficult to ensure that a specific IP address and the corresponding >record are no longer being used. Considering the huge address space, >and the unlikelyhood of collision within 64 bits of the interface >identifiers, a process which would remove the record after no traffic >has been seen from a node in a period of time (e.g., a year) might be >one possible approach.</t> Great: I mean in term of explaining - however I am not sure it should not call for a TTO (Time to Obsolecence) to be specified? > > The real problem for an non specialist is to know about _all_ > > what is discussed in an IETF environment where there is no > > state of the art/debate summary. > >I've tried to keep these debates out of this document (in the >interests of not delaying it, and giving possibility to fully discuss >it in other documents), just summarizing the situation if applicable. Yes. What I meant was to list the points under debate. Not to discuss them. >When concerned, one should check the references pointed at in the >paragraphs for more information. > >Of course, in some cases (e.g., this janitorial process) there has not >been much formal work on that. It's unfortunate, but hopefully some >new documents, in the future could be kick-started in the future. This is what I suggested. To explain what is concerned by the janitorial aspects, to push for new documents. I suspect that these janitorial/ancillary issues may be the real operational issues? Thank you for your understanding. jfc . dnsop resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop/index.html
- [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavio… David Meyer
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… Francis Dupont
- draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: [dns… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
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- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … Pekka Savola
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [dnsop] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-misbeh… Rob Austein
- Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt [Re: … J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
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