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Re: [DNSOP] [EXT] Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7686 (6761)

Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> Mon, 29 November 2021 20:24 UTC

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From: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [EXT] Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7686 (6761)
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On 29 Nov 2021, at 14:56, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> wrote:

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
>> The idea of modifying the protocol to accommodate namespaces outside the DNS is causing me to throw up in my mouth a bit, to be honest. Perhaps the DNS could just concentrate on being the DNS and other namespaces can fight their own battles?
> 
> This bit of wrong text originates with RFC 6761:
>   5.  Authoritative DNS Servers:
> 
>       Are developers of authoritative domain name servers expected to
>       make their implementations recognize these names as special and
>       treat them differently?  If so, how?
> 
> [...]
> 
> #5 explicitly talks about expectations on developers of authoritative *DNS* servers dealing with names that are not in the DNS. In retrospect, this was probably a mistake. (In retrospect, that mistake was probably caused by exhaustion from the discussion.)
> 
> Despite the nausea-inducing of Peter's suggestion, I think folks here need to deal with it, if for no other reason than RFC 6761 still being a standard.

6761 surely doesn't require any particular answers to those questions, thoug; it just requires the respective issues to be considered. Perhaps an alternative approach in this case is to update the answer to (5) to be "no" and update the answer to (6) accordingly?


Joe

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